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To: Alighieri who wrote (180376)1/12/2004 4:52:11 PM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575207
 
Alighieri Re.. Hey, welcome back.

Thanks, I hope you don't think I am the same soft pushover I was last yr. I might have gotten better.

I am sorry .... I just can't accept that the end justifies the means.

Maybe you can't, but most people in the US have accepted it. Frankly, I think Dean is flailing a dead horse here. It is an issue that plays well amongst the angry dems. but most people have accepted the position, that while the CIA and GWB were wrong, they weren't lying. Why?? Because it is much better than saying GWB was lying, and then being forced to do something about it, like, gulp, elect a France loving wimp like Dean.

I can't overlook abuse of power

Sure you can. Terrorism is the worst abuse of power there is, but you have conveniently ignored Saddam's terrorism and murder of his own people, and rail against GWB supposed abuses, because it serves your purpose. If you were really against abuse of power, you would have decried both men, especially Saddam. Let me also state here, on the record, the dems will get slaughtered in NOv. if they don't start, at the minimum, condemning Saddam, before they condemn the Iraq war, The idea that GW is evil, while you maintain silence on Saddam abuses, isn't the brightest campaign you Dems can come up with. My bet is that Dean, if nominated, will change his mind, and decide Saddam wasn't the nice guy he portrayed him out to be, in a bid to gain some centrist votes, thus losing a good part of the far left base he has.

France, Germany and Russia were for continued, and even stricter sanctions, because it enhanced their image in the arab world, ...

Check your facts. The US repeatedly vetoed efforts to relax sanctions.


Of course. I just got done saying the US couldn't relax or end the sanctions until Saddam ended his WMD desires. France, Germany and Russia wanted to strengthen them, which was the exact opposite of what the US wanted, which was, find a way to end the sanctions. All Saddam had to do in Dec, 02, was open up his society, like S.Africa did with their nuclear program , or like Libya did just now, or N. Korea has hinted they might do. That is all Saddam had to do. He couldn't, or wouldn't do that, so he is history. Good riddance, I say.



To: Alighieri who wrote (180376)1/14/2004 10:52:09 AM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1575207
 
The US opposed plans to lift sanctions or to water them down to the point where they would have no potential impact but the US did try to change the sanctions regime to one that was better targeted on weapons and weapon related items but Saddam successfully opposed the idea because he didn't want sanctions that would be more sustainable.

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