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Politics : Piffer Thread on Political Rantings and Ravings -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: X Y Zebra who wrote (12097)	1/13/2004 6:38:32 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14610

Is that as an illegal worker or as a legal one... big difference since the illegal, indeed does not pay taxes, FICA or most of the fees a legal worker will pay. it's a bit unclear to me, but according to this study, i believe it's per mexican immigrant, so i'm assuming that includes both legal and illegal. cis.org Agreed... so now, how do we stop this from continuously repeating over and over... illegals crossing the border, having babies in the US (not paying for it) and then ... this new "gringo" i.e. a citizen, can live in the US no worries” AND in addition, import the rest of the family... how about denying citizenship for those born in this country who's parent are illegal? it is a huge incentive for the pregnant mexican to cross the border, give birth and thus having a born an "american citizen" gain entre for the entire family. i just doubt such a change could happen in today's political climate. do not pretend to ignore that if additional labor is brought to the table, obviously the share of the pie will get smaller... That is why I am saying that these programs CANNOT really work UNLESS the South side of the equation improves the opportunities... This is where we all need to focus, how to make the entire continent a better place to live, everyone will benefit from it... i completely agree with you that a stronger economy with our trading partners in this hemisphere is to everyone's advantage, but my concern is the wide disparity of the wage is so great that instead of bringing the imported labor up to our level, the influx will reduce real wages for the semi-skilled and unskilled workforce......and the skilled knowledge workers are not immune to downward wage pressures as their jobs are exported either. at what point does this contraction in real earning power become a drag on our economy? are we willing to sacrifice a generation of american workforce to foreign workers will to work for a fraction of our wages....even on a guest worker program, are these workers going to be able to command higher wages that will eventually drive demand? right now i just don't see the scenario where that happens, but i'm trying to think creatively about this, and admit i'm stumped by it. it seems that globalization of the labor pool brings a supply regime and with that comes deflationary pressure. <edit> i have to run for now, looking forward to reading your response