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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3281)	1/13/2004 9:26:11 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

Hawk, there are those who get very upset for the US support for ISrael "no matter what" policy. To me it sounds very similar to your as well as some in the US who sound like you with regard to France and their support for Saddam. There are also those, you included who are very derogatory of the UN. the Bushies have finally realized that they have to do something in Iraq. They are slowly capitulating starting with allowing Canada to bid for Iraqi contracts, then allowing the UN to work with the Iraqis with regards to the transfer of power. msnbc.msn.com The Bushies are coming under pressure from those within their group to step back and abandon the belligerency. They are being egged on by groups within the US who display an approach and logic similar to that demonstrated by people such as you. But I remain very confident that by June 2004, the tide in the US will turn and this nation as a whole will rise to tame the wild bull in a China shop.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3281)	1/14/2004 3:59:57 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

Re: It makes me cringe to think we wasted a single American life during WWII in the effort to liberate that country from Nazi occupation.. The US didn't wage war in Europe to terminate the Nazi regime... Remember: Hitler and the Nazis came to power in 1933 as the last bulwark against Communism and to prevent a Bolshevik revolution in Germany... The Brits favored the Nazi regime so long as it intended to wage war against Soviet Russia. Hitler, however, failed to deliver --his Russian campaign got nowhere, and, in 1943, the European bourgeoisie faced the ominous prospect of a Bolshevik revolution in Germany (like the 1917 October Revolution in Russia)... followed by the invasion of Germany by Russian troops! The US had to intervene in order to prevent the wholesale transformation of Germany --and then Europe-- into a Communist powerhouse... If it was just a matter of fighting Hitler and the Nazi regime, the US should have gone to war in 1939, together with the French and the Brits, or even earlier, not in 1941 when Hitler had already invaded half of Europe. Gus

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3281)	1/17/2004 4:38:57 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

But only Chirac had the utter gall to put French partisan economic interests above the combined will of the UN and 48 other nations. How dare Chirac obey the will of the French people! What is he - some kind of democracy fetishist? -g- Would you suggest Bush accept the combined will of the UN when it opposes America's economic interests? For some reason, I thought you felt the opposite. But most of all, I dislike the French people who, when polled, expressed their support for a Saddam victory over the US. How did you feel about the Iraqi people who, when polled following the U.S. invasion, preferred Chriac over Bush? Tom