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To: D. Long who wrote (24267)1/14/2004 7:38:58 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793840
 
I am glad to see we are going after these people, in spite of all the "Profiling" screams. Watch the US Muslim groups rally round this guy. We have a potential "Fifth Column" in this country. "New York Times"

January 14, 2004
Ohio Cleric Arrested; Terror Link Is Cited
By ERIC LICHTBLAU

WASHINGTON, Jan. 13 — A leading Islamic cleric who runs Ohio's largest mosque was arrested Tuesday on charges that he concealed his ties to terrorist causes when applying for citizenship to the United States a decade ago.

The cleric, Fawaz Mohammed Damrah, has been an outspoken figure who represented Muslims in Cleveland in interfaith gatherings after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but was also forced to apologize for anti-Semitic and incendiary statements he made years earlier.

In an indictment unsealed Tuesday, Mr. Damrah, who officials said is a Palestinian by birth, is accused of lying to immigration officials about his association with terrorist groups when he applied for American citizenship in 1993. He also denied engaging in religious persecution "when in fact he had previously incited and/or assisted others, including terrorist organizations, that advocated the persecution of Jews and others by means of violent terrorist attacks," the indictment said.

Mr. Damrah pleaded not guilty in federal court in Cleveland and was released on bond. Officials declined to discuss the evidence in any detail. He faces up to five years in prison and possible deportation if convicted.

The F.B.I. questioned Mr. Damrah, 41, after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing about his association with a Brooklyn mosque where several of the plotters gathered, and he has also associated with prominent Islamic figures like Sami Al-Arian, the former Florida professor who was indicted last year on charges of supporting terrorism.



To: D. Long who wrote (24267)1/14/2004 7:45:23 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793840
 
Lefties Don’t Know Loneliness
New York Observer

On the evening of Jan. 6, the Manhattan Lounge on Second Avenue and 89th Street became the amber-lit sanctuary of that rarest breed of New Yorker: the unapologetic conservative. They came from all corners of the city—and sometimes just beyond—slipping in like refugees past the plasma TV playing Casablanca and up to the smiling man waiting at the end of the bar.

"Have you come to meet some conservatives in New York City?" he asked. His name was William Finkel and he worked for Meetup.com, a free Internet service that organizes gatherings for anyone who likes to gather (Howard Dean supporters, Harry Potter fans, self-described witches).

"We’re already all right here!" joked Jay Chaffin, a 25-year-old Harvard grad turned actor, gesturing to the four early arrivals. (When he was 12, Mr. Chaffin played the slum urchin Gavroche in Les Misérables on Broadway, and he seems to have retained some of the character’s impish wit.)

It was National Conservative Townhall Meetup Day, a monthly event celebrated in more than 600 cities by Townhall.com, a "one-stop mall of ideas" run by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Since last fall, Townhall and other right-of-center groups, including the Republican National Committee, have been taking a page from their opponents’ organizing book and getting in on the virtual community-building that has become a signature of progressive movements like MoveOn.org and the Howard Dean juggernaut. In the words of Townhall.com, "The liberals like Common Cause, the Million Mom March and the Sierra Club are doing it and it’s time that conservatives got in the game."

But in New York City, where Democrats outnumber Republicans six to one, the evening seemed less like a chance for conservatives to get in the game than to come out of their closets; less like a rally, more like a support group.

"I pipe up at gatherings or things like that, and try to start political conversations, but usually those get squashed," said Kate Thompson, 26, a small Texan with a big twang who uprooted to New York to become an actress, only to discover that acting—and the city—don’t really agree with her. "I either offend everyone in the room, or it just becomes clear that we’re going to have a big fight and it’s not going to be any fun any more. Abortion is the biggest hot-button issue. That’ll put a stop to the conversation in less than five seconds."

But at the Manhattan Lounge, conversation flowed freely. By 8 p.m., some 35 people had found their way there. In one corner stood Arthur Privin, a private investigator from Staten Island, expounding on the evils of the welfare state to Stanley Yuzuk, his new friend from the Department of Corrections.

"I believe in charity," said Mr. Privin, "but I’m against putting a gun to your head and saying, ‘Baby, you better give me money, because I know some poor family that needs this.’ That’s immoral!"

There was a budding political force in the room: Michael Benjamin, a 34-year-old securities trader who’s trying to make a run against New York’s senior Senator, Democrat Chuck Schumer, this November, mingled with his would-be constituents over mini-quiches. Nearby, a Brooklyn Law School student with wispy brown hair, fashionably dressed in knee-high boots and chunky glasses, described the loneliness of being one of only five Federalists on a liberal campus. And at the bar, a Log Cabin Republican bonded with a straight Irish-Catholic over the "hypocrisy" of those who claim to be liberal.

"I was talking to this guy in a neighborhood bar last night, and it turns out he’s a gay Republican," said the Irish-Catholic, who had blond, buzzed hair, a ready smile and a Claddagh ring on his right hand. "And so the guy tells me that he feels so lonely as a Republican, because other gay people call him a traitor to his own kind. It was so depressing."

"I have gotten more shit in my life from the gay community for being Republican than from the Republicans for being gay," said the Log Cabin member, 45, who also preferred not to use his name. "At a leather bar on the West Side, I can find six Republicans in the room. Easy!"

Alienation was making for some strange bedfellows; the room was an unlikely mix of young and old, gay and straight, white, black and Latino.

"I always hated the term ‘African-American,’ because it’s the least accurate term in the world," said Michael Andrews, the Lounge’s owner, who had left his nonpartisan post at the bar to join some of the raging conversations. "Easily the most important country in Africa is Egypt. Well, I guarantee you, when people imagine African-American, it’s not someone from Egypt. But we’re forced to use these words. It wasn’t that long ago that you could get thrown out of a history department of a small university by using ‘black’ instead of ‘African-American.’"

The crowd was abuzz with the follies of political correctness, the wonders of Condoleezza Rice, the disarray of the Democrats, the Dean phenomenon, the anti-Americanism of the anti-war cabal and the liberal bias of the media.

"Now what I’m upset about is that The New York Times considers themselves to be unbiased," said Horacio Castro, a 29-year-old computer engineer from Queens. "That’s what I can’t understand. They just editorialize!"

"Fox News is in a lot of ways probably the least-biased thing on television," said Ms. Thompson.

"But they’re trying to turn now against Fox and say that they’re one-sided!" said Kimberly Morella, 37, the vice president of the New York Young Republican Club.

"But Fox News always puts the big liberal on, and they always give them their time, and they don’t cut them off and they treat them with respect," said Ms. Thompson. "And that’s not true of the regular channels."

By 10 p.m. the crowd had thinned, promising to meet up again in another month. Mr. Privin was still regaling Mr. Yuzuk with maxims from his childhood, in both Yiddish and English, while Mr. Benjamin was recapping highlights of a recent 62-county campaign tour across the state. Toward the rear, Ms. Morella was packing up her bag to head home to Westchester, a satisfied smile on her face.

"My goal is to help further Republicanism wherever I possibly can," she said. "It’s about getting people, especially different ethnic groups, to understand that the conservative mind-set isn’t as scary as people make it out to be."

—Lizzy Ratner
observer.com



To: D. Long who wrote (24267)1/14/2004 6:37:23 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793840
 
I am happy this turned into a "PR Event." Nothing really new to happen soon. I fully expect another Shuttle disaster now. But the NASA Bureaucrats can breath easier unless Congress gets a hair up. Which they won't because the bucks get spread around.

January 14, 2004 - New York Times
Bush Calls for a Return to Space Exploration
By DAVID STOUT

WASHINGTON, Jan. 14 — President Bush sounded a new call for manned space exploration today, reviving a vision put forth by his father 15 years ago: returning to the Moon and eventually sending astronauts on to Mars.

"Inspired by all that has come before, and guided by clear objectives, today we set a new course for America's space program," Mr. Bush said in a speech at space agency headquarters.

Mr. Bush outlined a set of proposals "to carry astronauts beyond our orbit to other worlds" and to put human footsteps into the lunar dust for the first time in more than three decades.

The president said the United States should commit itself to completing work on the international space station, in conjunction with America's 15 partners, by 2010.

He called for a resumption of the space shuttle program, which was rocked by the Columbia disaster early last year, as soon as possible. And by 2010, as the work on the space station is completed, the shuttle program should be retired, he said.

Mr. Bush also called for development of a new space-exploration vehicle, capable of ferrying astronauts and scientists to the space station but dedicated mainly to carry people deeper into space than ever before, by 2014. A Moon landing could come as early as the following year, Mr. Bush said, and very soon after that the Moon should become "a launching point to missions beyond."

The president appeared to leave himself some latitude on the subject of costs. In the days leading up to this afternoon's speech, there were reports that he would propose an increase of about 5 percent, or $750 million, in next year's budget for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, with similar increases to follow over the next several years.

Today, Mr. Bush said much of the money for what he envisions would come from reallocating $11 billion of NASA's current five-year budget of $86 billion, and that he would ask Congress to increase the agency's budget by "roughly a billion dollars, spread over the next five years."

"Future funding decisions will be guided by the progress that we make," he added.

In an obvious effort to deflate critics of the space program in advance, he said the reach for the stars is as much a part of the American heritage as was the Lewis and Clark Expedition two centuries ago.

"The desire to explore and understand is part of our national character," he said.

But Mr. Bush asserted that the decades of space exploration had also produced countless tangible benefits — advances in weather forecasting, computers and medicine — and that more would follow.

Some scientists question the wisdom of human space exploration. And there are sure to be sharp questions from nonscientists, especially in this election year, on how much money should be spent reaching for the stars when so many problems persist on Earth.

One prominent Democrat, John Podesta, a former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, pre-emptively criticized Mr. Bush's Mars proposal as a wasteful and costly diversion. Mr. Podesta, speaking to an audience at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic-oriented organization that he leads, said that at a time when the country faces pressing problems, "President Bush is asking us to focus our attention on a red planet 35 million miles away."

But the president also picked up some Democratic support. "The president and I share much of the same vision for our nation's space exploration program," said Representative Nick Lampson, Democrat of Texas, whose district embraces the Johnson Space Center. "This is the first major presidential commitment on space exploration in many years, a commitment that will hopefully get us back on track for returning to the Moon and eventually to Mars."

Mr. Lampson, a member of the House Science Committee's space subcommittee, said President Bush would have to include Congress in his plans and be prepared for hard questions.

Mr. Bush spoke at a NASA headquarters whose people are savoring the triumphs of the Mars rover and the striking pictures from the red planet. Still, he said, "the thirst for human knowledge cannot be satisfied by even the most vivid pictures."

Mr. Bush's speech was inevitably reminiscent of President John F. Kennedy's speech to Congress on May 25, 1961. "I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth," he said.

Today, President Bush delivered a message in some ways similar to Kennedy's. In a sense, he picked up a torch from his own father. In 1989, the first President George Bush proposed establishment of a base on the Moon and sending astronauts to Mars. But the plans faded away, in part because of the estimated cost of $400 billion.

The circumstances are considerably different today than they were in 1989, and vastly different from those of 1961.

When Kennedy spoke, only a dozen or so satellites had been launched into space. About half had been launched by the Soviet Union, including the very first, on Oct. 4, 1957. Only two men had flown in space, and again the Russians were first. Yuri Gagarin was aloft for 1 hour 48 minutes on April 12, 1961. On May 5, 1961, Alan B. Shepard Jr. became the first American in space, with a 15-minute suborbital mission.

Kennedy's speech to Congress was very much a cold war call to arms. He referred to "the battle that is now going on around the world between freedom and tyranny," and he asserted that progress in space could help the undecided peoples of the world "make a determination of which road they should take," meaning to follow the path of the Stars and Stripes or that of the Hammer and Sickle.

"No single space project in this period will be more impressive to mankind, or more important for the long-range exploration of space," Kennedy said, "and none will be so difficult or expensive to accomplish."

Billions of dollars were spent and several lives were lost before two Americans became the first humans to set foot on the Moon, on July 20, 1969. Despite the cold war origins of the race to the Moon, the Americans brought a message: "We came in peace for all mankind."

There were five more lunar landings, all by Americans.

But before the last landing, on Dec. 7, 1972, space exploration had become controversial in a way it had not been when Kennedy spoke in 1961. A number of Americans had begun to question whether it was right to spend billions of dollars on space adventures when some people in the United States and many elsewhere were sick and hungry.

The Soviet Union that Kennedy worried about is no more. Americans and Russians now cooperate in space. Rockets have flown farther into the void than hardly anyone could have imagined in 1961. But heartbreak has accompanied triumph, with the destruction of two space shuttles, in 1986 and last year, and the loss of 14 astronauts.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company