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To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (36407)	1/16/2004 10:53:15 PM
From: Stan	Respond to of 39621

Robert, I do not wish to weary this thread, so I will leave you with my conclusions. Dan. 12:2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Through Adam men are returned to dust, which you are fond of quoting, but here, the multitudes (of Adam's children) will awake from that very dust (the same Hebrew word for dust is used in Genesis 3:19) -- some to glory, some to everlasting shame and contempt (hell). Phil. 3:21 will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like His glorious body. Gr metaschēmatizō -- to change a thing from one form into another. A butterfly is metamorphized. Even though nothing remains in form of the caterpillar, the butterfly does not leave a caterpillar body behind, just an "empty tomb." It is indeed not a replacement. Resurrection refers to the body that died, which is metamorphized into a glorious one, not discarded and replaced as you maintain. It (what remains of it) is lifted as a transformed body. God did not make a mistake by putting us in a body of flesh. We were never meant to die. Sin did that through Adam. Jesus paid to have us lifted out of the ground, just as His was. We are following Him. He did not get a replacement body through discarding the one in which He was crucified: proved by the permanently remaining scars of nails. One more thing. Check carefully the four Gospel accounts of the removal of His body from the cross and into the tomb. Jesus' body is referred to both as a neutral item (it, the body) and as a personal noun (Him). Matthew calls it by a neutral term - body, it. Mark calls the body "Him" Can you discard a Him? Is He an exception? NO! Moses: They buried him -- Deut. 34:4 Eleazar: they buried him -- Josh. 24:33 Saul: they found Saul (his body) -- 1 Sam. 31:8 Absalom: They took Absalom and cast him into a deep pit -- 2 Sam. 18:17 So David slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David. -- 1 Kings 3:10 There are many other citations I could list. Question: Robert, if the body is discardable in death and to be replaced, why is the personal pronoun used of them? You cannot discard a body without discarding the person -- according to the treatment by Scripture. You cannot adopt an attitude toward the physical body that Scripture does not endorse without parting from the Word of God. If Scripture taught what you assert, then the instances of death and burial would always be neutral and never personal. (the body of so and so, or it, etc. ) The body you live in now is you too. Stan