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To: zonder who wrote (12130)	1/14/2004 11:59:37 AM
From: bob	Respond to of 14610

<<I especially stand in awe of all those people in the current administration who actually manage to keep a straight face as Bush pains through one of those rare talks with no script -g- >> How do you feel about the "well spoken" presidents that lie in proper english? Is the final outcome different? Is it a secret where you are actually from? I mean I'm not looking for a street address...a country would do it for me.

To: zonder who wrote (12130)	1/14/2004 12:20:32 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Respond to of 14610

we are basically assuming that the average guy on the street actually understands the issues at stake and knows what is good for him. precisely... the masses... and more so as they get larger... do not care... I am convinced that the old Roman Moto of Bread and Circus applies today even more so... Today... it is bread (or drugs) and sports.... at times it feels as though we are in ths huge airplane... the pilot is dead, engines are on fire, the stewardesses are shouting.... hey! we are going down... and the public... are just having a party and could not care less or do not even realize how dire the situation is... BUT I REFUSE TO GET DEPRESSED... so pass the wine -gggg or worse, found having committed suicide oh not me... I would not commit suicide for those idiots... if i were deeply involved, i would find the way to justify to my mind the time I would spend in jail (i would plan it well, in a place where there would not be death penalty AND I would have a good lawyer that would get me a relatively low sentence... I would explain that I did it as a public service -ggg Then I would use the time a way to write a book about it... Sell it after I am out in a jurisdiction where they could not impound the proceeds..... LOL !

To: zonder who wrote (12130)	1/14/2004 10:56:40 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14610

My creator (not God, Robert Heinlein, although there are those who say there is no difference) said the franchise should be give to NO ONE who had not served in the military. If you were not willing to die for a country, you should not be allowed to vote for its leaders.

To: zonder who wrote (12130)	1/14/2004 10:58:14 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14610

Your turn: Thousands face jobs axe in India moves Press Association Thursday January 15, 2004 3:13 AM Plans by finance giants Abbey and AXA to cut jobs in the UK and switch work to India has marred new figures showing a fall in unemployment and near-record levels of people in work. Abbey announced that offices in Edinburgh, Warrington and Derby will close and a site in Bradford will be affected, with the loss of 400 jobs. A call centre will be opened in India, while the closure of the Edinburgh office will result in the transfer of 900 jobs at Scottish Provident to the company's Glasgow office. AXA said 220 jobs would go at its general insurance sites in Morecambe in Lancashire and Darlington in County Durham and 250 posts will go through efficiency measures at other offices. Plans to switch work to Bangalore, India, will result in further job losses of up to 230. Union officials warned of a "stampede" of jobs to India and called on the Government to intervene to support the service sector. Boots is expected to announce that up to 1,000 jobs are to be cut from its head office in Nottingham as part of a cost cutting programme. AXA said it would no longer be actively promoting AXA Direct, the division that provides private motor insurance and other personal insurance policies although it will continue to accept new business and service existing customers. The new strategy will have a direct impact on the volume of work in Darlington and Morecambe, leading to 220 job losses over the next nine months. "We very much regret having to reduce the number of people who work with us. However, through natural attrition and re-deployment it is hoped that the need for any redundancies will be minimal," said Peter Hubbard, chief executive of AXA Insurance. Abbey's chief executive officer Luqman Arnold described the changes as "tough business decisions" and a company statement said every effort would be made to redeploy people affected before redundancies were made. guardian.co.uk