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To: Doren who wrote (39091)	1/15/2004 6:58:21 PM
From: Don Green	Respond to of 213182

OSX uptake How much of this a cost issue? What is considered the minimum to properly use this OS? It might mean that 60% have older machines and don't want or cre about upgrading to be able to use the OS. I wonder when a school district drops it's Apple line of computers and moves to Win/Pc does Apple clear them from the books. Maybe that is where many of those numbers come from. How do they know how many users are even out there. I could own a Mac and how would they know if it is still in use or is a doorstop. So would I be part of the 60 percent? All of these percentage and user numbers seem fishy from both Apple and WinIntel. I have a CPM, MSDOS 4, Win3 machine in my garage gathering dust, how are they counted in the big picture of users of a PC format.

To: Doren who wrote (39091)	1/16/2004 12:44:17 AM
From: Jeff Hayden	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 213182

Doren, There is no way I would ever go back to OS 9. Back a year and a half ago when I had to use it because OS X versions weren't available, I just hated making the switch back to 9, either booting into it or firing-up classic. Why? I detested fooling around with memory allocation and then having any application crash the entire system. Drove me nuts. Nowadays, I may restart the system occasionally, particularly after installing new or update software. Once in a while, if I feel the system is sluggish, I'll restart it to get the startup routines to clean up the drive. The ability to fire-up a mind-boggling number of programs is just plain indispensable. I do admit the Finder can still use more work. But, on the other hand, Expose' is fantastic. I don't know if you've run across them yet, but there several very nice software packages in Panther. FontBook is quite handy; ligatures built into OSX are downright beautiful; ColorSync has some very useful functionality now; Rendezvous is amazing for printer networking - totally hands free; FileVault (I haven't used this yet); and, I understand the Audio is of highest quality and includes all MIDI functionality.

To: Doren who wrote (39091)	1/16/2004 2:42:58 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213182

>>Apple likes to tout the fact that 40% of its installed base is using OSX. Seems to me that 40% after 3 years is pretty bad.<< Doren - Seems to me that 40% is actually pretty good. Especially when you consider the time it took for the bread and butter applications to trickle out in OS X versions, and the fact that one does need to upgrade most if not all of one's apps when moving to X. Consider the fact that Microsoft still can't boast a majority of users running XP, even though most apps written for older Windows versions will run on it. Here's an interesting article about Windows new versions uptake. It reports on a study showing how slowly American businesses are upgrading Windows. news.com.com Some excerpts: "Windows XP, the most current version of Windows, was found on just 6.6 percent of the machines." That refers to businesses. Then there's this: "Consumers are also still widely using Windows 98. Google reported that 29 percent of searches done in September came from machines running Windows 98, as compared with 38 percent from Windows XP-based PCs and 20 percent from Windows 2000 machines." - Allen