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To: Lane3 who wrote (24665)	1/16/2004 1:44:53 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793718

Andrew Sullivan has had it with Bush's claim to being a fiscal conservative: "I'm talking about this $170 billion foray into space. After all, the next generation will be paying for a collapsed social security system, a bankrupted Medicare program, soaring interest on the public debt, as well as coughing up far higher taxes to keep some semblance of a government in operation. But, hey, the president needed another major distraction the week before the Iowa caucuses, and since he won't be around to pick up the bill, why the hell not? Deficits don't matter, after all. And what's a few hundred billion dollars over the next few decades anyway? Chickenfeed for the big and bigger government now championed by the Republicans. " This space initiative is, for me, the last fiscal straw. There comes a point at which the excuses for fiscal recklessness run out. The president campaigned in favor of the responsibility ethic. He has governed - in terms of guarding the nation's finances - according to the motto: 'If it feels good, do it.' I give up. Can't they even pretend to give a damn?" washingtonpost.com

To: Lane3 who wrote (24665)	1/17/2004 12:43:29 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793718

One real question I have is, has anybody asked the Iraqis their opinion of UN involvement? Do the Iraqis even want the UN? After all, consider what part the UN has played in Iraq to date. First they cooperated with Saddam in the oil for food program, which means that they took half off the top for Saddam and left the Iraqis to starve. Then they did their damndest to prevent the ouster of Saddam. Then, after the war, they ran like rabbits as soon as they were bombed. The Iraqis don't have that option. So, has anybody in the crowd touting "UN legitimacy" bothered to ask the Iraqis their opinion on the matter?