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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (525084)	1/16/2004 2:22:29 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769667

That was hardly noticed-though it did happen. Raising an army of six-figures and fighting a war for 3 1/2 years, not to mention changing laws by decree, overshadowed even placing the USSC under house arrest. There have been few objections to all that, other than in academic debates intended to do no more than polish research and celebrate the deep traditions of history. That's, of course, because Lincoln WON-and for no OTHER reason. If we don't defeat and PURGE the current domestic enemy, history will be even more critical of freedom-loving Americans than you seem bent on being today. If we DO, history shows us that we CAN AND SHOULD DO whatever gets the job done. Such a reality is a permanent part of our nature...

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (525084)	1/16/2004 2:35:39 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769667

Speaking of Lincoln's justification-simply winning-no one today would seriously entertain a better outcome if the Confederacy had won (not even in Southern universities). Lincoln also deserves credit for being a great leader despite his transgressions: For he figured out when it truely IS appropriate to justify the means by the end. However, for an entertaining and stimulative What If on the opposite outcome, I recommend Harry Turtledove's "How Few Remain", and a series of related novels that follow. The America drawn by Turtledove in immense detail from 1880 through 1942 is a REAL nightmare (with more to come)...