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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (24783)	1/17/2004 4:36:24 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793718

"Who could think that my portrait of a dumb, detached President is unflattering? someone put it well today. When O'Neill walked into a Cabinet meeting "the President was blind and the Cabinet was deaf." This means the President wouldn't notice him, and the Cabinet members wouldn't listen to him.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (24783)	1/17/2004 7:45:24 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 793718

Nadine, I posted that because I thought it was informative, not because I agreed with it's contents. Like I said, I thought it was a good speech because he expressed himself clearly--you could follow his points and understand where he was coming from--and his tone was good. I don't see you disagreeing with that so I don't think we have an issue. These days I'm happy with any communication that meets those standards. I am sick to death of the brainless dismissal of logic and the nastiness. Both sides have some legitimate points under all that crap, I think, but it's becoming near impossible to find them. I'm not willing to give up on the existence of a pony, but I'm increasingly intolerant of and worried about the pony's environment.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (24783)	1/17/2004 8:27:21 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 793718

"If Clinton had gone into Iraq in 1998, as he should have, Kennedy would have been all for it. It's all partisan." Kennedy might have given clinton more wiggle room but his anti-war stance is a genuine one imo. He might be the only one and i give him credit for his consistency. His anti-war stance seems to emanate from the vietnam mess. O'Neill seems more like a dottering old fool to me. He seemed surprised that the 60 Minutes thing would be spun this way. He even said he would still vote for bush. Go figure. mike

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (24783)	1/17/2004 1:05:44 PM
From: Sam	Respond to of 793718

If Clinton had gone into Iraq in 1998, as he should have, Kennedy would have been all for it. It's all partisan. Sometimes, Nadine, one may do something that is "right" but for the wrong reason at the wrong time in the wrong way. Whereby the "right" thing becomes a "wrong" thing. It is not simply "all partisan." To the extent that it is partisan, though, the Bush admin made it so with their pre-election marketing plan. Going to war shouldn't be a partisan matter, but it was to made to be so here. They are shameless.