To: maceng2 who wrote (44922 ) 1/18/2004 12:40:32 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559 PB, so that's why you had trouble with maths. My predicates were bewildering. Or, more likely, they simply conflicted with your prejudices. It's notoriously difficult for people to consider ideas which conflict with their rules of thumb commonsense [note 1]. <One just has to read it with open eyes and say "what the f**k has this to do with mathematical ability"?? > I wonder what you think is the effect of females maturing 3 years earlier than males. I wonder if you think that what happens in the developmental years of children has any bearing on the outcome of their adulthood. I'm not an etymologist, but I suspect the "mental" is part of the word "developmental" for a good reason. You apparently think there's no impact and anyone can learn anything at any age equally effectively. Which isn't true. We elderly folks only need to recall how whip-crack sharp our minds were when young and how things stuck instantly. Language teachers know that learning languages after puberty is a big project compared with learning them in infancy and childhood. Maths is just another language used to describe what's going on. Females who learn the language at the right age would do as well, without mental blocks, as males with the same intelligence also taught at the right age. That's my point. People with low IQs will struggle with maths no matter what, same as they struggle with other languages and can only handle simple stuff. <My mother tells me she gets a "mental block" on the subject of mathematics. I would say there was a thick headed irish man, her "math" teacher, whos knuckles barely cleared the ground, told her as a child "girls were no good at "math". > PB, if you think I'm saying this too, then you've completely missed my point and need to go back to remedial reading class. Also, you were a naughty boy to swear in class, so you must write out 100 times "I must not use the word f**k in class". Mqurice [note 1]: <common sense. 1. Native good judgment; sound ordinary sense. 2. The set of general unexamined assumptions as distinguished from specially acquired concepts: Common sense holds that heavier bodies fall faster than lighter ones. -- The American Heritage Dictionary New opinions are always suspected, and usually opposed without any other reason but because they are not already common. -- John Locke Common sense is judgment without reflection which is shared by an entire class, a people, a nation, or the whole human race. -- Giovanni Battista Vico Judging by common sense is merely another phrase for judging by first appearance... The men who place implicit faith in their own common sense are, without any exception, the most wrong-headed and impracticable persons. -- John Stewart Mill Sound English common sense -- the inherited stupidity of the race. -- Oscar Wilde Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age 18. -- Albert Einstein >