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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (527540)	1/21/2004 10:10:36 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

As for the numbers of dead via Saddam: 1. Estimates of the war dead from the Iran Iraq War -1 to 1.5 million encyclopedia.com 2. Estimates of Gulf War dead (91) - numbers vary from 100,000 to ~23,000 (including missing Kuwaitis) historyguy.com 3. Estimates of Iraqi dead due to UN Sanctions from 1991-1998, due Saddam's refusal to abide by his international agreements with the UN and USA - estimates vary from a million to 1.5 million. users.erols.com 4. Estimates of state murders (Kurds, Shiites, political opponents...) 300,000 to 500,000 users.erols.com totals: 2.3 million to 3.5 million people. re:"I think, unless you have some documentation, your guess of Iraqi dead via Saddam is greatly inflated, not justified, but inflated."

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (527540)	1/21/2004 10:26:29 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

The reason that U.S. troops were in Saudi Arabia, was Saddam - to "Contain Iraq" (unless you like bin Laden claim that U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia were an army of occupation). It is not surprising, therefore, that the Bush Administration would begin removing our troops out of Saudi Arabia, once the need to "Contain Saddam and Iraq" was over. So the cost of the "Policy of Containment" was 3000 lives (a warship, two embassies, the World Trade Center - twice, and the Patriot Act). So far the cost of a "Policy of Preemption" has been the death of 500 soldiers and our relations with the French and Germans. re:"I have heard that the reason bin Laden attacked on 911 was because of the presence of our troops in Saudi Arabia, if so what does that have to do with Saddam. Are you aware that Bush quietly removed our troops from Saudi Arabia????"