To: JBTFD who wrote (527632 ) 1/22/2004 12:44:58 PM From: Johannes Pilch Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 I think 3 stands on it's own. It is a separate point. And you may not like the name warfare but it is a decision that benefits one class at the expense of another. What would you call it? I call it commerce. Both classes benefit at each others’ expense. Employers benefit from the cheapest labor they can find so that they can acquire their goals. Cheap laborers benefit from the wages employers pay them so that they might acquire their goals. They do not have to work for any particular employer.I guess I missed out on this. I don't know what you're talking about. Politicians (and leftists in general) are quickest of all to be disingenuous, if it promises to allow them to stand in a positive light. You can't legislate morality, but the government does have a responsibility to protect the common interest against the greed of the few who would otherwise harm it. If the few are harming others, then they do wrong and ought to pay for their wrongs. But legislating against the innate rights of the few to acquire and enjoy property is itself a wrong. Yet leftists aim to do just this in order to perpetuate some pie-in-the-sky notion of “equality” and “morality.” When they do this, they act no better than the few they aim to hinder.The law is imperfect, but it is potentially useful that our society can maintain some semblence of justice. Agreed. I think law is important. I also think it must be used as sparingly as possible. Of course, the genie is now out of the box. Without a strong sense of personal morality, we must legislate every single facet of life, creating so many laws we cannot possibly follow them. That is virtually where we are today.Corporations are working full time to create laws that benefit them at the expense of the common welfare That is because the war is on and corporations know it. And they will win. Just look around, pal. The game is over. There was a better way. But it is no longer available to us., it is only fair that the common welfare has some representation. Hah! The common welfare is the corporation, whether in its current form or in the form of massive government.