To: Rainy_Day_Woman who wrote (12362 ) 1/23/2004 4:50:55 PM From: X Y Zebra Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14610 yes, but you live, work and pay taxes in the US Damned right I do, too much of them for my own good and taste. -g Unfortunately Ms. Fox, that is really no basis to qualify for exchanging (or not) views about a given subject.I too feel like pulling out of the international scene and let all the idiots fight to their hearts content, trample each others rights, buy into dictatorships - keep our money and our focus right between our borders and the America's continent In an ideal world... that would be excellent... unfortunately it is utopia... as much as I hate admitting it, I have to agree with Jorj... Libertarianism can ONLY exist in Libertatopia... So the choices are... 1. Accept reality 2. Try to influence it using the best possible method -->objectively<-- to our advantage Or 1. Ignore it and live in a dream 2. Suffer the consequences of our ignorance.cept, if one of them does start using nuclear bombs or chemical and biological weapons and it starts engulfing the atmosphere it will effect us, perhaps fatally Exactly.... Do you think that going out and throwing bombs getting pissed as hell is going to alleviate that? Understand this... because I am saying let's take a smarter strategy, it does NOT mean I want to let the terrorists get away scott-free... I want every frigging terrorist on the stake, fried like a pig. The sooner the better. But we cannot take the same strategy as the Israelis and Arabs have done for years and years... I would hope we are smarter than that. Now... If the consensus of the "people" is to go and throw bombs right and left... well, then have at it... I have no choice but shuddup. It is going to get quite ugly... If that's the chosen strategy, so be it. Just make sure you are open with the people and talk straight... Enough of this idiotic "orange" and "mauve" and "pink" frigging alerts... If this is war, then call it by its name and install martial law and quit farting around with the Martha Stewart alerts. "uuuuuuhh noooo we can't do that the market will crash...." Get over the damned stock market, you want war, then have at it, but don't cry for what it brings to ya. Oh and don't pretend that the rest of the people "swallow" the lies of the politicians. That is what pisses people off the most.we are having a major snowstorm here right now - it is incredibly beautiful....... I am happy for you and enjoy it, appreciate it well, because in war, these things are difficult to appreciate and/or enjoy. Remember well, this time, war might just be within these borders, it makes a hell of a lot of difference from reading it on the papers, some 12,000 frigging miles away. Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it. I certainly hope we can find an alternative, intelligently, without bringing war to home... and don't ask me what my "strategy" would be because I do not have the means to implement it, and if I did, like hell I would be discussing it here. So... take it from there Mad Max it is all yours. ciao bella...