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To: Mannie who wrote (36069)	1/23/2004 11:07:20 PM
From: elpolvo	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

scooter, I was largely for the action in Afghanistan... daisy cutters? indiscriminate cluster bombs dropped from airplanes? BALONEY! you may not realize it, but here's what you REALLY were largely for... you were largely for justice through the rule of law. you wanted those responsible for coordinating the terrorist hijackings of september 11, 2001 to be apprehended through the cooperative international efforts of every country on earth. after extensive investigations and intelligence sharing, you wanted reasonable suspects to be apprehended and sufficient evidence presented before a judicial body to confirm that it was reasonable to charge them with their crimes and bring them to trial. then you wanted a fair trial to be held to determine guilt or innocence and in the case of a guilty verdict, you wanted sentencing commensurate with the deed but also commensurate with a civilized view of how enlightened humanity hands out justice in capital cases. and most of all, you wanted to be proud of civilization for being evolved enough to use this kind of system of justice to deal with crimes against humanity... and you wanted to be proud of america and americans for leading the way to a better world by exhibiting maturity and patience and being the shining global example of how justice can and should be handled in a way that is respectful of individual human rights while also being unilaterally cooperative, diligent, skillful and effective in enforcing the laws we set for our conduct as human beings in our shared world. am i right? -yer conscience

To: Mannie who wrote (36069)	1/24/2004 2:50:01 PM
From: Victor Lazlo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

<<No one said anything about a non-response. The world was standing shoulder to shoulder with us, we could have forced a solution. >> huh? France Germany and Russia were pro-saddam, they were his voice at the UN, as they had big insider deals with him, and were selling him weapons and construction projects, and otherwise doing end-runs around the economic sanctions that they had previously agreed to .. not exactly "shoudler to shoulder" ! LOL ! Chirac and his political party took lots of $$$$$ from the french oil co's that operated almost totally in Iraq .. (hint, there's no oil in France..)