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To: Lane3 who wrote (26004)	1/23/2004 9:24:48 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 793606

Madam, I did not use the T-word. When I use the T-word, you'll know it. I'm sure there are at least a half dozen of those logical fallacies in that statement of yours. <g> You should certainly feel free to point them out. <ng> The "French Army" part, of course, was in jest. They don't stick their hands in the air. Not all at once, anyway. It usually takes about 6 weeks for a good army to conquer France. Although I'd be willing to bet ours could at least halve that.

To: Lane3 who wrote (26004)	1/24/2004 12:26:17 AM
From: E	Respond to of 793606

I just saw this remark of yours: I like dignity and statesmanship and solemnity in public officials when they're talking about war...This isn't a game. Keep the pep talks for the huddle where people are in sync on the context; don't broadcast them to the world. Treating war like it's a game is disrespectful to our troops, IMO. That's the way I feel. His manifest excitement, and "appetite," is particularly disrespectful to the dead and maimed of our troops, and to their families, (not to mention the collaterally damaged innocents). Our leaders are supposed to have some dignity, imo, and when speaking in front of the world about war, to convey some decent respect for the solemnity of the enterprise.

To: Lane3 who wrote (26004)	1/24/2004 1:32:47 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793606

Keep the pep talks for the huddle where people are in sync on the context; don't broadcast them to the world. Something just occurred to me. You know what happens if that is done? The "C" word- -conspiracy- -gets thrown around. You can't hear Duray & Co. slamming that charge out? I can. In fact something just like that was done recently by one of them. Had to do with recruiters nastily lying to young, innocent recruits to entice them into The Corps Of The Damned. There's someone (other than the possible exception of that ignoramus) who is not aware that military recruiters lie? The innocent recruit telling the drill sergeant "But the recruiter told me ...." is a stock joke, remember? How is it that openness and transparency in gov't is GOOD in every area but this? If what the man actually said is THAT bad, maybe the remedy is to fire him or court martial and jail him.

To: Lane3 who wrote (26004)	1/25/2004 9:52:02 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793606

"We want to get the hell over there. The quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit." - General George S. Patton, Jr (addressing to his troops before Operation Overlord, June 5, 1944) "Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin, I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!" - General George S. Patton, Jr (addressing his troops before Operation Overlord, June 5, 1944) "Perpetual peace is a futile dream." - General George S. Patton, Jr "Magnificent! Compared to war all other forms of human endeavor shrink to insignificance. Gold help me, I do love it so!" - General George Patton Jr There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - General George Patton Jr There is no security in this life. There is only opportunity. - Gen Douglas MacArthur "If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it." - Julius Caesar "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience." - Julius Caesar "Then, Sir, we will give them the bayonet!" - Stonewall Jakcson's reply to Colonel B.E Bee when he reported that the enemy were beating them back. At the first battle of Bull Run, July 1861. "Under divine blessing, we must rely on the bayonet when firearms cannot be furnished" - Stonewall Jackson, letter accompanying his requisition for 1000 pikes. April 1861 "In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel "As far as Saddam Hussein being a great military strategist, he is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational art, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier. Other than that he's a great military man-I want you to know that." -General H. Norman Schwarzkopf 1991 "You don't hurt 'em if you don't hit 'em." - Lieutenant-General Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat, Col Puller called his artillerymen, gave them the Army position, and ordered: "If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them." Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question? We're here to fight." At Koto-ri in Korea - Chesty Puller at Koto-ri in Korea "Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!" - Chesty Puller motivating his men at Chosin Reservoir "Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race!" -Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC "Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". " Major General Chesty Puller, USMC - while on a Battalion inspection. "We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem." - Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC (I have found three versions of this one) "All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time" - Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC "They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!" - Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC When the Marines were cut off behind enemy lines and the Army had written the 1st Marine Division off as being lost because they were surrounded by 22 enemy divisions. The Marines made it out inflicting the highest casualty ratio on an enemy in history and destroying 7 entire enemy divisions in the process. An enemy division is 16500+ men while a Marine division is 12500 men. It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee "A man-of-war is the best ambassador." -Oliver Cromwell =================================================================== These guys seem to have a problem with political correctness.