To: goldworldnet who wrote (528620 ) 1/24/2004 11:27:30 AM From: PartyTime Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 You know what's ironic? We're learning that Saddam had a hard time keeping his scientists in line. Given the bombshell from Dr. Kay's remark's, we're learning Bush and Cheney are having a similar hard time. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put together the fact that pre-war 25 CIA veterans claimed Bush was relying on faulty intelligence; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put together the fact that O'Neill's book is telling; and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to note that Kay is basically confirming what the UN inspections had already shown. It really is sad that Bush committed all of our soldiers over there, even when he didn't have assurances from Turkey. 'Cause once they got there he felt he couldn't expend the political capital to bring them back. Worse, Saddam's son-in-law Karmel, in 1995, provided information that reached US intelligence indicating that Saddam was close, in the late-80s, to a nuclear program and that Iraq's WMD were destroyed and buried shortly after the first Gulf War. Cheney then goes to the 103rd VFW Convention, in 2002, and quotes to our veterans what Karmel said about the nuclear aspect, but Cheney completely ignored, left out, the WMD burial aspect to what Karmel told intelligence. Was this not a perversion of truth, at least a lie by half of an omission? >>>" But we now know that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. Among other sources, we've gotten this from the firsthand testimony of defectors -- including Saddam's own son-in-law, who was subsequently murdered at Saddam's direction."<<<whitehouse.gov And Cheney's speech was delivered subsequent to the speech of former UN chief weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus: >>>Given this track record, it is no surprise that many of the weapons inspectors, when candid, have recorded the extensive disarmament of Iraq. Reviewing the 9 years of Iraqi disarmament, Rolf Ekeus stated in a presentation at Harvard University on 23 May 2000 that "in all areas we have eliminated Iraq’s [WMD] capabilities fundamentally".<<<middleeastreference.org.uk It's no wonder Bush's Karl Rove resorted to dirty tricks in order to discredit former weapons inspector Scott Ritter who, it turns out, was truthful regarding Iraq's WMD.