To: Amy J who wrote (181504 ) 1/27/2004 5:34:54 AM From: Joe NYC Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574199 Amy J,First thing I did when I entered college: checked out exactly what my foreign friends had taken in high school - what were their courses and what exactly was taught when in each course. Their school system offered math courses one year ahead of ours, meanwhile my 8th grade math was completely redundant I think the problem starts much earlier. I went to open houses of several schools (and these are good schools BTW), and what shocked me was the schedule of classes. They had math scheduled sometimes just before or just after lunch break. This is when kids are too hungry / distructed or fed their high carb meal, ready to fall asleep. In my school, the heavy subjects, such as math, physics etc were always the first or second subject, when kids are the freshest. And it went down with lower priority as far as need to be alert is concerned (writing, literature, languages etc). Some kids were laying on the floor while doing their first class of the day (most importand time) - creative writing - while I visited the class. The teacher said it helped some students in being more creative. What it told me is that there is a problem of lack of discipline. Now what do you expect when a "good school" starts the kids on such a misguided track? This was elementary school. What can you expect by the time kids get to high school? Things will only get worse.Many hightech people are teaching their kids at home. Yes, it is gaining popularity, but it is very limiting (by parents income, schedule, abilities). I know one couple who is doing it and another that is seriously considering it, when their child reaches school age. And actually a third couple that I lost touch with.thru some type of marketplace education. It's the only way to get more competitive in a more competitive global system. As I said, the main obstacle is the monopoly of where the money flows and how it is distributed. Once this isopen, the greatest marketplace in education would be realized in the US. The US certainly has a lot of money at the disposable for each child, probably one of the highest in the world, no matter how money is counted. Considering how much can be done on the cheap in places like poor far east countries, Eastern Europe, imagine how much could be done when the money is flowing at the rate it is in the US. I am not trying to equate quality of education with money, but money can't hurt. Joe