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To: lurqer who wrote (36189)	1/25/2004 7:13:18 AM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

Recently we were regaled with the statement that "The coalition has broken the back of resistance". This was from the commanding General of the 4th I. D. Ray Odierno. (see news.com.au ) Since then we've had a morbidly distressing track record that continues today. One can only imagine what his troops and their families think of the General's grasp of the situation. U.S. soldier dies after Iraq rocket attack A U.S. soldier died Sunday morning in Iraq after being wounded when a rocket-propelled grenade struck his vehicle, a U.S. military source said. The attack happened Saturday night in the central town of Beiji, just north of Tikrit. The soldier, whose name has not been released, was assigned to the U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division, the military source said. The soldier was riding in Bradley fighting vehicle when a RPG slammed into it. Other soldiers in the patrol convoy returned fire against the attackers and captured six suspected insurgents, the military source said. The critically wounded soldier was taken to the 28th Combat Support Hospital where he died hours later after surgery, the source said. Beiji is in Iraq's so-called Sunni Triangle, the volatile region north and west of Baghdad, where many of the deaths have occurred. Five U.S. soldiers and four Iraqi civilians were killed Saturday in three separate bomb attacks in the Sunni Triangle, U.S. military officials said. In Khaldiyah on Saturday, a car bomb killed three U.S. soldiers and wounded six others. Several Iraqi civilians also were wounded in the attack. Two of the wounded soldiers were taken to a combat support hospital and four were being treated at a local military base. West of Fallujah on Saturday a roadside bomb exploded and killed two U.S. soldiers as their vehicle passed by. The soldiers were assigned to the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division, U.S. Central Command said. No more details were immediately available. In another Saturday attack, a bomb hidden along a road near a government building in the northern Iraqi city of Samarra exploded as a U.S. military convoy passed by. The blast killed at least four Iraqi civilians and seriously wounded another. Thirty-three civilians were treated for minor wounds at a local hospital. Three U.S. soldiers also were wounded, U.S. military sources said. The bomb was probably detonated remotely and was hidden near a Toyota pickup truck parked near the building, the sources said. Insurgents have been active all week in the Sunni Triangle -- where three attacks in a 24-hour period Wednesday and Thursday killed nine people, including two U.S. soldiers. The latest death brings the total of U.S. soldiers killed in the war to 512. cnn.com JMO lurqer

To: lurqer who wrote (36189)	1/25/2004 8:12:53 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

"Just saying that getting the truth from some sources is a challenge." The issues addressed in the articles I linked below can be factually & accurately supported. They expose what I see is a serious problem with regarding the left wing. No doubt you will disagree, but facts & reality clearly support what the authors of these articles point out time & time again. Those folks identified in these articles seem to have adopted (Dustin Hoffman's character in the movie "Hero") Bernie Laplante's, cynical world view as their version of reality...... People are always talking to you about truth. Everybody always knows what the truth is, like it was toilet paper or something and they got a supply in the closet. But what you learn as you get older is that there ain't no truth. All there is is bullshit, layers of it. One layer of bullshit layered on top of another. And what you do in life, like when you get older, is you pick the layer of bullshit you prefer, and it's your bullshit. Dustin Hoffman in Hero Lies About the President's Policy in Iraq Message 19692973 On WMD's -- what did the Democrats say? Message 19719035 Prez Calls Dems Patriot Games Bluff Taking on demagoguery. Message 19718005 'Bush lied' and the lying liars who perpetuate it Message 19699632 Bush critics ignore history Message 19697279 Democrats Unlearn 9/11 Message 19665135 The Era of Distortion Message 19658898 How the West will win and continue to deny it Message 19652863 The Post Debates Dick Cheney "Powerline" Blog Message 19729175 "further evidence of the intellectual bankruptcy of liberalism" Message 19708726 Academic Anti-Bushism Why the hallowed halls of learning are filled with Bush haters. Message 19697019 DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE MARK STEYN Message 19718354 The Mayflower Gasbag Disaster of 2004 Message 19697086 A BUSH BASH BACKFIRES Message 19689949 Subject: Iraq Revisionism Message 19689535 THE MEDIA’S RUSH TO DISTORT Message 19713040 The choice of anger Message 19654789 The Last Refuge of the Democrats Message 19569648 Should we believe the gloom of the Democrats? Message 19726202 No war for oil: Is John Kerry serious? Message 19634390 The Intolerant Left Message 19630939 How I Exposed Hucksters, Cheats, and Scam Artists and Became the Scourge of the Liberal Media Message 19722408 Journalism’s standards, Clark’s standards, hope for the future — and more Message 19668870 Mealy mouth media Message 19661155 The Quote, the Whole Quote and Nothing but the Quote Message 19652526 THE POWER OF THE JUMP Message 19652427 Why Speculate? A talk by Michael Crichton Message 19652233 Message 19652283 Winning the war on liberal bias? Message 19647286 Liberal Media Bias What are the causes? Message 19604142 You expect to read this from Ray Duray, but not from a Congressman Lawmaker Criticizes Capture Of Hussein Message 19601407 Bush critics live in their own worlds Message 19580066