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To: que seria who wrote (45213)	1/25/2004 6:17:24 PM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

<Brazil and Nigeria have been hijacked from their people, as opposed to having the kind of government and rules that most of their voters want>> Exactly. That's why I keep telling you guys to stop those guys who are hijacking the US from its people!!! <<evil men and ideas took hold of nations that were largely populated by the good people you see everywhere, then those leaders led their nations into such ruinous devastation that their status was smashed and their ideas discredited.>> Stop Bush and its cohorts before it is too late! Their ideas are taking hold in the largely good people are being engulfed by them.

To: que seria who wrote (45213)	1/25/2004 6:24:27 PM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

You make some good points QS. <<I take that to mean that a certain feckless, sunny, and unique tropical civilization (you know the one) doesn't have the cultural/moral attributes that prompt or even enable the people to insist upon (not just tolerate) the beneficial rules.>> Yes, the nation is good the state is bad. The individual is good, the collective of those same individuals is bad. Well, Brazil is not for hte beginners, I know. But let me explain you: put one German alone, and he's not worth 10 cents. Put 1.000 one of them together and they, as a group, are worth a good million. Put 1.000 Brazilians together they are worth 10 cents. Have a good look at a single Brazilian and you would be amazed at what we can do single handedly. I use this example to my wife: Our condo regular meetings are a mess -back in Brazil- and I quit attendig. They are all good people, professionals, parents, polite etc. Put them together to resolve issues that only themselves can do, about issues that only will benefit themselves, and only their own welfare is at stake, and they can't agree on anything.