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To: Dale Baker who wrote (6135)1/25/2004 11:29:25 AM
From: rrufff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
As usual <gg>, I agree with your entire post with a tiny exception. Paragraph 3 - If someone had come along with a message of conciliation, not attack, then I believe the US is ripe for that candidate.

I don't believe the "attack Bush" is going to win. (The attack Clinton made Clinton's poplularity rise even during impeachment.) Whether this is rationale or reactionary is immaterial. I believe Kerry has moved forward because he was perceived as less attacking and less "out of control" than Dean. Ironically, the attack ads against Dean led the voters to believe that Dean was immoderate, personally and politically.

The rise of Clark before his candidacy was announced, and his subsequent plateau, is also a sign that the US is looking for something instead of Bush, but not the anti-Bush or the "hate-Bush."

Edwards - did well - coming from nowhere and I think he has a chance because he ran a more issues oriented campaign, refusing to get into the name-calling and keeping the Bush bashing to a minimum. Right now, he's a long shot. He needs to do very well in the south. If so, I think he'd have a good chance of beating Bush if he can stay the course and not be convinced to go into typical political attack mode.

I didn't think he did particuarly well in the last debate but those are tough. 7 people spouting sound bites, irrespective of the question, makes it tough to have a real debate.

As for the media, it goes where the best headline is, despite what disappointed SI posters may think or pretend to ignore. The left wing nuts attack the media as being controlled by e.g. Jews and pro-Bush reactionaries. The right wing nuts say the media is controlled by, e.g., the liberal Jews and the hate-Bush crowd.

Do we see a pattern yet?

Most of us, the vast majority of us reject the extremists on both sides. If it comes down to Bush v anti-Bush, Bush will win. It may not be right, or rational, or even the best outcome, but it will happen.



To: Dale Baker who wrote (6135)1/25/2004 11:51:22 AM
From: rrufff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
Dale what were those rules you discovered about posts per day per thread and endless "cut and paste?" I probably violate that but not as bad as at least one other here. It might be good to have it cleared up what the SI policy is.