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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: briskit who wrote (16150)	1/25/2004 10:04:21 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 28931

On the subject of "the Christ" I believe that is a through- going Hebraic concept. The "annointed one" goes way back to King David and beyond. They (Hebrews) were quite blessed with a wide variety of forms and imagery to adopt for their own , from the older Indo-Persian stories from the mature Zoroastrian Avesta/Vedic tales when those races were combined to the Egyptian tales of Horus which predate & parallel that of the "Christ" almost completely , as well those duplicates out of Babylon . Then there is the tale of Prometheus ... 1 The "tree of life" in the "Garden of Eden" is a copy. Many ancient races had a tree of life. With the Greeks it was Gogard, with Landon the serpent. With the Norse it was Yggdrasil, the ash, at the foot of which was Nidhogg, their serpent. According to Hisiod, Zeus created three races of men, the last out of ash trees. The Hindus pictured creation as a tree, Ashvatta, with it’s roots in the absolute and it’s branches (seven planes) hanging downward. From the word Ashvatta we see where others got their ash tree, considered sacred. Among the Tibetans, the "tree of life" was Zampun, and among the Persians, Homa. The Druids honored the oak tree as a symbol of "the mundane tree of life" Even the Chinese had their "tree of knowledge" , Sung-Ming-Shu. No. 2 The river that "became into four heads" that "went out of Eden to water the garden" was a copy of other accounts. In the Brahmanical account, four primeval rivers pour out from the golden Mount Meru (earth), the city of Brahma. The Sineru of the Buddhists had it’s four sacred rivers which proceeded from Tawrutisa, the abode of Sikia, the god of life. The Tien_Chan, or celestial mountains of the Chinese and Tartars, was watered by four perennial fountains of Ty-chin, or immortality. Asgard, the Eden of the Scandinavians, was watered by four rivers of milk. No. 3 The seven days of creation is not originally from the Hebrews. Before this "Priestly" account (4th century) , Hesiod (8th century), said, "the 7th is the sacred day" Plato one wrote thus: "The gods, pitying the laborious nature of men ordained for them as a rest from all their labors, the succession of religious festivals." The first of these festivals was every 7th day, while the 7th day of every month was dedicated to Apollo, the sun, hence our Sunday. Not even the word Sabbath comes from the Hebrews. It is derived from the Babylonian Sabbatu, day of rest, observed by them long before the Hebrews.

To: briskit who wrote (16150)	1/25/2004 10:13:20 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 28931

Some aspects of Mithra the god/intercessor for mankind and are also quite similar , though they did sacrifice too many bulls for my taste ...but the blood was deemed holy and spiritually energizing ...Saul begins his preaching in Tarsus which was trading capital/nexus already 2000 yrs old when Paul the preacher arrived on its shores and transfers the idea of the sacred sacrifice over to that of "The Chirst" and "the blood of " to have the story appeal to what he found there already. Mithra He first appears as an Aryan sun-god in Sanskrit and Persian literature circa 1400 BCE. The cult was introduced into the Roman empire in the 1st century BCE. Mithra was: born of a virgin in a stable on the winter solstice--frequently December 25 in the Julian calendar (the emperor Aurelian declared December 25 to be the official birthday of Mithra, circa 270 CE)--attended by shepherds who brought gifts; worshiped on Sundays; shown with a nimbus, or halo, around his head; said to take a last supper with his followers when he returned to his father; believed not to have died, but to have ascended to heaven, whence it was believed he would return at the end of time to raise the dead in a physical resurrection for a final judgement, sending the good to heaven and the wicked to hell, after the world had been destroyed by fire; to grant his followers immortal life following baptism. Followers of Mithra: followed a leader called a 'papa' (pope), who ruled from the Vatican hill in Rome; celebrated the atoning death of a savior who has resurrected on a Sunday; celebrated sacramenta (a consecrated meal of bread and wine), termed a Myazda (corresponding exactly to the Catholic Missa (mass), using chanting, bells, candles, incense, and holy water, in remembrance of the last supper of Mithra). The emperor Constantine was a follower of Mithra until he declared December 25 the official birthday of Jesus in 313 CE and adopted the cult of Christianity as the state religion.