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To: LindyBill who wrote (26325)	1/26/2004 11:42:24 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 794282

Could this be because they see the wall is going to be a success? Maybe that's why they've changed their tune. Or, maybe Hamas is moving to the Palestinian center a little because it sees its chance to take over completely from Fatah, which would be worth a little compromise. To quote a political leader from quite a different era, "Paris is worth a mass." It either case, the Israeli wall is turning out to be one helluva bargaining chip.

To: LindyBill who wrote (26325)	1/26/2004 11:48:53 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794282

This ten year "truce" is meaningless until these two statements are changed: Abdel Aziz Rantisi told Reuters late on Sunday that Hamas had come to the conclusion that it was "difficult to liberate all our land at this stage, so we accept a phased liberation." .... Rantisi told Reuters late on Sunday any such new proposal would not mean that Hamas recognised Israel or spell the end of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. What kind of truce is that? A death trap after demographics takes its bloody toll.

To: LindyBill who wrote (26325)	1/26/2004 12:52:28 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 794282

LB, The wall helps. The Rantisi shoot to kill order is another reason. But a 10 year truce still could be a useful first step. If I were an israeli, i would not rule it out, out of hand just yet. As a quid pro quo i would not demand the impossible like immediate recognition but I would demand a complete repudiation of terrorism forever. Of course there are no guarantees of Hamas honoring such a committment much less making it, but 10 years of peace is a good first step to create a better situation on the ground for the average palestinian making it much more difficult for them to commit national suicide 10 years hence. And of course such a deal satisfies much of what the US wants and probably would remove the fund raising constraints placed on Hamas by the US. The IRA did something like this a few years ago. Hopefully people who consider themselves serious and religious can make such a deal. By the way this dovetails the Hizbollah exchange which is also is a very small step. But with the US breathing down the neck of the syrians and the syrians making some overtures to the israels for hizbollah to survive, they too might have to adjust to the new post-sadam, post khadafi realities. Mike