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To: puborectalis who wrote (18548)1/26/2004 11:08:23 PM
From: Grommit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78525
 
If you don't believe in this investing philosophy, then go away, don't be rude, and don't try to convince us that we are nincompoops.

Better to be silent, and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.



To: puborectalis who wrote (18548)1/27/2004 12:12:43 AM
From: Spekulatius  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78525
 
one thing I've learned from the Bubble bursting 3 years ago is that ALL stocks are trading vehicles

You have learned nothing.



To: puborectalis who wrote (18548)1/29/2004 2:27:39 AM
From: LauA  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78525
 
Fallope's learning curve could be very important to 'value' investors. My guess is that a lot of injured stockmarket players learned that the secret to investing is getting out BEFORE the bubble bursts. And that's what they're going to try to do in the present market.

I guess that I learned the opposite lesson because my largest position (after cash) is BRK.b. My cheapest b's (1366) were bought on the day NASQUACK peaked. I can't bear to part with them, but then again I can't part with those I bought @2000 last year.

I actually have been rebated cash from brokerage houses, but that's because I'm cheap, and I pound the table. In any case my commissions are so low that they are lost in the noise. I've only benefited from analyst pumping and dumping because it helps move the prices from fair value. I can't complain.

IMHO, the little guy has a great advantage most of the time. I can slowly accumulate small, thinly traded mispriced stuff that never reaches the radar screen of the big guys. I've blown off my share of fingers in value traps and scams, but overall the last 3 years have been very, very profitable.

Don't know about the next 3 years, hence my transition from margin a year ago to cash now. For the last 4 months my thin gruel has consisted of a few MA's, cash-outs, CanRoys, and occasional out-of-the-money puts.

So now I'm down to the likes of BRKB, WSC, WPO, MCO, VUL, etc. Most have huge gains. Why would I want to do anything but buy and hold? I don't need the cash. I'm happy with the underlying value. When I sell, I tend to not buy back in. And I don't feel like paying the taxes.

So I shouldn't hold CMX bought in single digits? I should pull the rip cord on NIAG bought under 2? How 'bout TARR with a cost basis of a few pennies?

Po'taa'to, Po'tah'to: you call 'em trading vehicles, I call 'em fractional interests in businesses.

Good luck



To: puborectalis who wrote (18548)1/30/2004 9:01:54 AM
From: Lazarus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78525
 
too funny...

whatever you call it,they're stocks that are worthless if nobody wants to buy it from you.

you are of course right - BUT the beauty of value investing is that when you position yourself in a company that DOES begin to succeed and gain recognition-- oddly, suddenly everyone wants to own it.

Lazarus