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To: Bilow who wrote (123792)	1/27/2004 6:38:14 AM
From: Sig	Respond to of 281500

<<<Some of the problems with your facile comparison are as follows: >>> I dont have a problem with it, you do (1) 520 Americans were not killed in the airline accident you provided a link to. That was a Japanese airplane, and carried mostly Japanese citizens. Since you're ignoring Iraqi casualties in your Iraq war figures, it's clear that you don't give a good Goddamn about anybody but Americans, so you should only consider American casualties in your comparison.>>> This war on terror, and Iraq is a part of it, is to prevent many acts of destruction such as caused by the 4 hijacked airplanes in NY - and you do not give a damn about the lives of Iraqis which will no longer be dumped into the mass graves or undergound torture chambers of Saddams sons. <<<(2) Accidents are avoided to the extent that we find it possible. Similarly, we should also avoid hopeless wars.>>> There is a positive side for every war, but you take the position there is none whatever ,and in America you have the right to express only the bad side or which there are also many. As a survivor, which is all we are,in some ways, I appreciate those who fought so I did not have the learn to speak or write German or Japanese language. Studying 2 years of Latin was my absolute limit. >>>(3) The Iraq war is ongoing, so you can't compare it to a an event that does not repeat.>>> I agree wholeheartedly , and using wars like Viet Nam or the War of the Roses for comparison is silly and useless in regard to making predictions or comparisons to the Iraq conflict. <<<Furthermore, none of the cowards supporting the war on this thread is willing to specify an ending date for the war, (or a technique for winning it), so no realistic death toll can be estimated.>>>> I predict that there is no end to the 40,000 per year American casualties on out highways, but the US casualties in Iraq will be reduced. You are not paying attention to the Administrations statements that the war on terror will be long. <<<<(4) All humans die, so by your logic, we could lose 100 million Americans in Iraq and it would still be less than the number that were going to die anyway.>> I believe you are right. My sister in Michigan is over 80, says all they do now is go to funerals, about one a week. <<<(5) As far as convincing the American (or other nation's) public to support a war that doesn't make progress, your logic has already been tried several times. It didn't keep the Vietnam war going, and it won't keep the Iraq war going either. >>>> The voice of the people is heard through Congress, they supported the war and GWB could not have started it without their support. Two Military officers are now running for President on the Democratic side - do you think they are planning to disband our Military and keel-in to the terrorist, or continue the efforts now being made to protect American interests ? Your vote will count here !! <<<(6) The problem with the death toll is that it is unnecessary. Can you name a sport in the US that kills 500 of our people in well under a year? I sure as hell can't. If there were such a sport, we'd outlaw it immediately.>> I know that one bomb in the Superbowl , or an airplane crash there, could kill a lot more than that in one day - which is why the new office of Homeland Security will be involved and there will be Military (that hated word) jets overhead <<(7) Eventually our kill total will exceed that of Saddam. Will that be enough for you or do you care at all about the blood that drips from your hands? >> They got 5 of our choppers in a week.Where is my uniform ?. It must be here somewhere in a closet. Lets get those B-29's out of mothballs. We dont have any left? Sheeeeesh Sig