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Politics : Piffer Thread on Political Rantings and Ravings -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zonder who wrote (12443)	1/28/2004 3:00:14 PM
From: Rainy_Day_Woman	Respond to of 14610

this little posting session started, by OMD quoting a president who believed there were WMD and hence bombed Iraq you assumed it was Bush instead of Clinton and said he was "armed with" hot air and willful deceit in order to conjure public support for this invasion OMD then went on to quote quotes from a slew of politicans who also believed there were WMD you retraced and said you suspected as much but couldn't be bothered to verify it even though you tried to side-step it, he got you good on that and I noted it [as did several others] you then started the insulting and have carried though with it in every post you've made to me do what you feel you have to do, but take a good long look in the mirror before you do it

To: zonder who wrote (12443)	1/28/2004 3:52:28 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14610

The law in the matter of internet libel is still very much under construction. Any advice you may have received is ultimately just as likely to be wrong as anything she has. Perhaps the simplest rule to apply here is that enunciated by Harry Truman: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you post on political threads on this site, or on unmoderated stock threads, you knowingly and willingly run the risk of getting targeted for mistakes or wild statements. One of the posters on GWB called GWB a fascist. I am delightfully shoving their words down their throat. You don't want this, check the truth of your posts before you make them and stick to that truth and defend it as needed. Now if you can establish that Foxlette knows that there is a person "zonder" who actually is in Monaco, you might have a case. Maybe. The courts are still fighting even about that. But if she knows that, she knows more of you than anyone I know. You claim to be in Monaco; you claim to be a fund manager. To my knowledge, the truth of neither has been actually established. For all Foxlette actually knows, you could be a blonde pig-tailed girl a block from her. Which brings up a whole 'nuther legal matter: Can an alias be slandered or libelled? US state laws require that a PERSON be the subject of attack; it's not at all clear that that can include a series of bytes with a false name attached to them. Is your name 'zonder'? Is that your first or last name? Or some combination? Or completely unrelated? I have no way of knowing. Given that, you may claim that I or Foxlette libelled the alias zonder, but moving that claim to the person behind that alias is quite another matter. In the United States, whose laws Foxlette is required to obey, being a citizen and resident, we have an amendment to our Constitution guaranteeing freedom of speech. Now that does not protect against a charge of slander or libel, but it does give quite a wide latitude to what she may say without fear. Here's a summary of different nations laws. Perhaps you should check Monaco's and move if needed. Not that the US legal system will necessarily recognize the judgement of an arbitrary foreign court. hfac.uh.edu