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To: Sam who wrote (123886)	1/28/2004 1:23:20 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Actually its the media and internet that makes lying impossible over the long haul. Keep in mind our biggest liars were fdr, jfk, lbj as well as nixon, reagan and bush. IT has nothing to do with party or ideology. If the leader feels strongly he will exaggerate. But now the electronic media and internet make this less likely to work and this is the difference. I dont think the public has changed all that much though. mike

To: Sam who wrote (123886)	1/28/2004 2:02:09 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<the lesson or iraq has to be that the govt needs to be totally honest with the public> Actually, the lesson our leaders will learn from this, is exactly the opposite. The last time we punished a President for lying or committing crimes, was Nixon. Since then, we haven't punished Reagan for breaking the law in Iran-Contra, or Clinton for his felony (lying to a Grand Jury), or Bush for inventing pretexts to wage a war of aggression (basicly, doing the same thing we hanged the Germans for doing, at Nurenberg). Everyone gives lip service to honesty, but lying will continue and worsen, as long as it isn't punished. Calley, Kissinger, all the teachers at the School of the Americas, they all remain unpunished.