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To: rrufff who wrote (6376)1/29/2004 7:57:42 AM
From: Crocodile  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
That may be true, but at an incredible "cost" in terms of Iraqi and American lives. Was it worth it?

People are outraged when drive-by shooters from some crime ring spray bullets into a crowded restaurant and take out 20 innocent bystanders along with the 1 or 2 intended targets. I know I feel that way. Don't other people??? or do they just think.. "Oh well, at least there are 2 less criminals in the world so it was worth it."

I'm just amazed that people are still trying to justify massive takings of human lives on the basis of catching one frigging hoodlum dictator.

Frankly, I'm appalled at the whole thing. Makes me sick inside when I hear how the "perps" in this administration egged each other on and mowed down arguments from the UN that sanctions and inspections were working against the build-up of WMD. In retrospect, it's all looking just like what I thought it was... a bunch of drunk-on-power imbeciles who sat around hatching their big invasion plan without considering other possibilities or consequences... Just like a bunch of drunken teenagers who go out and steal a car to go for a joy ride that ends in a big "car bonfire" on a deserted road. Seems really smart at the time, but not so damned smart the next morning when they have to walk a few miles home with everyone wondering why the hell they did it in the first place.



To: rrufff who wrote (6376)1/29/2004 8:29:11 AM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
In a serous struggle with violent terrorists, our information has to be accurate before we deploy huge amounts of personnel, materiel, money and diplomatic prestige. Otherwise we will be sucked into irrelevant fights while the most important challenges go unaddressed.

Doing something good is not necessarily the same as doing what needs doing the most. It reminds me of people won't put real sugar in their tea and coffee, but they scarf up all the bread on the table (yes I was a waiter long ago, LOL).

The token gesture toward dieting doesn't stop their weight gain and vulnerability to the diseases that come from obesity.



To: rrufff who wrote (6376)1/29/2004 8:39:40 AM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
I agree naturally. But would add that IMO if left in power, a future war would have been inevitable.

The sanctions regime was being eroded, a massive anti-sanctions propaganda campaign mounted and numerous bribes paid to hundreds of national leaders around the world to accomplish that. And once the sanctions ended, he'd be free to rebuild his armed forces including the WMD, crush the quasi-antonomous Kurds, and re-invade Kuwait and move directly into SA this time.



To: rrufff who wrote (6376)1/29/2004 11:21:38 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20773
 
Saddam was such a good liar that he convinced most of the world,

It didn't convince me.

It did not make sense for Saddam to be building that type of weapons when he was no longer faced with the massed charge of Iranian children. His goal was to get sanctions removed, and like Ghadaffi he was cleaning up. This was becoming obvious which is why Cheney and Rumsfeld had to rush the war.

TP