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To: Alighieri who wrote (181890)1/29/2004 8:26:41 PM
From: hmaly  Respond to of 1574926
 
Al Re...Look, you may be happy with the removal of saddam...and I could even agree with that.


What exactly keeps you from agreeing with that? You say it is the lies, but how do they detract from the fact, that a madman is now out of power, and the Iraqi people are now free to decide who should be their president. Condemn the process if you must, but praise the results.

the process however is a HUGE issue...if the prez can lie, distort, exagerate and take the nation to war that, what are the limits of his power? It's the process...get it?

Oh I get it. You would rather the Iraqi people suffer 30,000 deaths a yr, torture and starvation, rather than have the president embellish facts to get something done.

oh please...keeping this guy in a box for the next 100 years would have been far easier than losing lives over a charade...

And you want to accuse GW of telling lies.

I don't know how you know that. Scenario..

Saddam and sanctions are gone for good. WMD aren't now and won't be a problem in the future. Iraqi's are free to chose their own gov. and people to lead them. Instead of sanctions, the US and the rest of the world will invest massive amounts of money into Iraq, to rebuild it. INstead of arms and WMD programs, the new leadership will invest in infrastructure, and taking care of their people, instead of using them as human shields.

Scenario...Iraq descends into a civil war, in which the Shia make a violent grab for power, because the US cannot/will not deliver the kind of political solutions that give them the majority they think they deserve...conversely, the US does give them that power, and the kurds and sunni escalate their revolt...in other words hostility breaks out in the country...what options does America have...do we stay and fight it out, on whose side, at what cost (lives of course)? The Iraq mess is just beginning to unfold for you to say that we or they are better off.

And that is an entirely possible, if unlikely scenario at this point. If the Iraqi people chose to do that with their freedom, then so be it. It really means that the war, and Saddams repression, hasn't eliminated the base desires of the Iraqi people enough such that they will compromise their differences enough to get along. Which means Iraq might have to suffer through a civil war, until all sides decide, that compromise is the best policy for all. Right now, I think the Iraqi people have suffered enough, that they will accept compromise. I don't see Sistani's demands as that far out, or radical, and I think he will delay the election date, if the UN commission says so. The sometimes huge demonstrations have been mostly peaceful, so that is a good sign. And tonight on TV, they said most of the suicide bombs in Iraq came from Al Qaeda, not Saddam loyalists.