To: GST who wrote (124077 ) 1/31/2004 9:23:34 AM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Putin said he would support an invasion if there was any proof from inspectors of WMD -- and there was no proof so he did not support the invasion. Turned out he was wiser than Bush. But by opting to abstain, he was not going to directly oppose the US/UK from overthrowing Saddam (despite the tremendous economic ties Russia had with Iraq). Thus, it shows he was wiser than Chirac. As for WMDs, the information Kay has revealed CLEARLY ASSERT that Saddam had directed his scientists TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING WMDs, in direct violation of the UNSC resolutions. But his scientists had pocketed the money he provided them, and misinformed him as to the progress they were making.. Charles Krauthammer wrote a very succinct article on this yesterday:washingtonpost.com Here are some excerpts from it:"He did find, as he reported last October, WMD-related activities, from a very active illegal missile program to research and development ("right up until the end") on weaponizing the deadly poison ricin (the stuff London police found on terrorists last year). He discovered "hundreds of cases" of U.N.-prohibited and illegally concealed activities.' ..... And this: "It was a combination of Iraqi bluff, deceit and corruption far more bizarre than heretofore suspected. Kay discovered that an increasingly erratic Saddam Hussein had taken over personal direction of WMD programs. But because there was no real oversight, the scientists would go to Hussein, exaggerate or invent their activities, then pocket the funds. Scientists were bluffing Hussein. Hussein was bluffing the world. The Iraqis were all bluffing each other. Special Republican Guard commanders had no WMDs, but they told investigators that they were sure other guard units did. It was this internal disinformation that the whole outside world missed. Congress needs to find out why, with all our resources, we had not a clue that this was going on. But Kay makes clear that President Bush was relying on what the intelligence agencies were telling him. Kay contradicts the reckless Democratic charges that Bush cooked the books. "All the analysts I have talked to said they never felt pressured on WMD," says Kay. "Everyone believed that [Iraq] had WMD."' The bottom line GST, if Kay is correct, is that the only manner in which the US or any other intelligence agency could properly discern the true status of Iraq's WMD programs was by the process currently being used.. Interviews with scientists who are not facing major retaliation for revealing the truth behind their lies, as well as via human intelligence related activities (spies and informants). But it was exactly this kind of investigative process that was required to uncover the truth as to whether Saddam, and Iraq, AND WAS NOT BEING CONDUCTED, NOR HAVE BEEN REQUIRED, BY EITHER UNSCOM OR UNMOVIC inspectors. The truth is, with Saddam still in power, the world would never have known that Saddam had directed his scientists to covertly continue pursuing Ricin research, or other forms of WMD programs. We would have lifted sanctions and within a year or two, Iraq would have likely been right back in the same development and production activities. And it would have been even more difficult to generate suffcient international political support for reinitiating UNSC sanctions on Iraq.. Certainly with the almost certain guarantee of a French veto in the council. So given the evidence that Kay has provided, we have the "smoking gun" Bush needed to prove that Saddam never intended to disarm his WMD research, as well as convincing evidence that Saddam considered his WMD programs to be so important that he would ignore the will of the international community as directed through 17 different UNSC resolutions. It's clear to most logical people that only through the use of military force, and removal of Saddam, would the puzzle Iraqi WMDs be solved. Hawk