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To: RealMuLan who wrote (45408)	1/31/2004 9:58:01 PM
From: tom pope	Respond to of 74559

>>Wandering around Tientsin, << should be TianJin. Those old spelling represents the history of colonialism. Yiwu, you seem to be totally devoid of any sense of perspective. Why on earth would use of the Wade-Giles system be equated with the history of colonialism? It's been thrown into the dustbin of history but it was a pretty close (and inoffensive) representation of how Chinese words sound in English. That was colonialism?

To: RealMuLan who wrote (45408)	1/31/2004 11:55:19 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<80%+ of FDI in China are from overseas Chinese, not from Westerners.> Yiwu, that's a laugh. Where do you think the overseas Chinese get their money? It doesn't matter who funnels the money in from Uncle Al's credit system, it's still coming from there. Those overseas Chinese are westerners. Maybe you have some silly racist idea of what a Westerner is. I understand that you only understand a noocular bomb shoved in your face - bullying bossy people tend to be like that. Well, you might just get that if you start murdering Taiwanese. People who threaten violence often find it comes back in spades [literally, for digging graves]. I'm sure you'd understand if Taiwanese tried defending themselves. They might even be able to buy or rent some weaponry from some supporters if China gets vicious, which China and you say you will. On the spelling of Tientsin, English spelling of words is different from local sometimes. For example, Rome is spelled Roma in the local lingo, Florence is Firenze. Peking is Beijing, now also usually adopted in English, Antwerp is Anvers or Antwerpen, depending on which local you ask, Bruxelles is Brussels and Bombay is Mumbai. As Tom pointed out to you, the spelling of local words using the a,b,c alphabet came from people carefully trying to represent local pronunciation using a,b,c as pronounced by English visitors. It's quite funny that you say how China is writing its own history, but you argue the toss on how to spell Tientsin using the writing defined by the British colonialists. Giggle. Okay, write away and spell it any way you like, as long as you do it using the correct sounds of a, b, c as defined by the colonialists. English adapts to anything. Lately people humour the locals by adopting the local spelling. When you type things into the computer, writing your own history, I guess you'll be doing it using the a,b,c ... snicker. Sure, sure, write your own history. If you get over your racist jingoistic xenophobia, you'll do much better. If you read that "On Liberty" you might learn something and maybe even avoid being dead in a noocular exchange [if you on site helping the fight to defeat the Taiwanese seeking freedom from the totalitarian Chinese state instead of]. Although you find it hard to understand, the British really did have some excellent things to learn from. My NUN Utopia still has some time to wait, obviously: Message 19755943 Mqurice

To: RealMuLan who wrote (45408)	2/1/2004 12:10:42 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<I doubt anyone would read the so-called Chinese history written by you. > Yiwu, I mean real history, not revisionist stuff which happens in approved books. CDMA for example, is spreading its wonderful magic across China as you don't read this. China Unicom has announced it will meld its GSM and CDMA networks using GSM1x, which is another CDMA technology, despite the GSM label. That's real history Yiwu, as written by me. The money flowing in is real history, written by foreigners [including overseas Chinese]. It's all happening now, for real. Not in books. Real history. There is a real, live, boy in Beijing, riding around on our son's bicycle, which he gave him when he left for Canada. He was thrilled. That boy has been contaminated by his visitors and you can't do anything about it. History was written right there in his brain, by foreigners. That boy came from the hutongs of the outback where poverty is being written in the mud and dust of Mao's MADness. He's working horrible hours for a child [about age 15], for negligible pay, education stopped [other than learning his cooking trade and English from his Kiwi visitors and whatever else he learns in his long, long day, which lasts from about 6.30 am to nearly midnight, no days off for at least 8 weeks [as observed by guests]. History happens sometimes in microsteps, sometimes in big bangs. Some good, some bad. Got to go and write some local history here. Gung Ho Genki Dama to you, Mqurice