To: Sam who wrote (124131 ) 2/1/2004 5:44:20 PM From: marcos Respond to of 281500 Cleverly crafted rhetoric, eh .... easily translated, though - the excuse for everything is '9/11' .... Oops, we're creating massive budget deficit? - 'Well, 9/11' .... Um, we marketed an elective war on WMDs and now can't produce any? - 'No problem, 9/11' ..... What, people resist honouring our perpetual 9/11 blank cheque to rule as we damn well please? - '9/11, 9/11, Nookular 9/11!' Which works on a few, no doubt ... somebody upthread, i think Michael Cummings, says 'It's all about 9/11' ... well, wouldn't life be so much simpler, if all really did depend on events of one day, with solutions so clear that we were faced with no further judgment calls Quite a two-pager article on Afghanistan here, Sam - #reply-19755885 .... i think there is in Afghanistan both an obligation and an opportunity for the Rest of Us to advance civilisation .... obligation, because we joined in the invasion and took on responsibility .... opportunity, because by doing a whole hell of a lot more there than we are now doing, we can demonstrate a willingness to act, and thereby cut the ground from the neocon argument that we won't, or can't ..... i'm not satisfied with the canadian level of involvement, i'd like to see México participate, somehow somewhere in the process, most ideally as part of a coalition of latinos .... all independent democracies should stress this effort, imho, in place of aiding Bush with his Iraq adventure 'All that makes existence valuable to any one depends on the enforcement of restraints upon the actions of other people. ' - John Stuart Mill - bartleby.com That sounds wrong when you first look at it, maybe, but then consider - You don't have a right to life or liberty if just anyone is permitted to take them from you .... catch-22, the only way we have to overcome Might Makes Right, is to make mighty the rule of law .... just have to figure out an uncatch-666, of how to make the law fair [whatever the hell that means]