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To: Lane3 who wrote (27508)2/2/2004 9:14:33 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793696
 
Voters who appear at their polling places will be asked to sign an oath swearing that “I consider myself to be a Democrat” before casting their ballots.

That's the line from the article, Karen. Sounds like a "Loyalty Oath" to me.



To: Lane3 who wrote (27508)2/2/2004 9:18:19 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793696
 
Turns out I am not the only one who thinks that way.

Lost in Carolina
Party hijinks.

— Radio-talk-host Michael Graham covers southern politics from his home in Virginia. He is an NRO contributor.

Regardless of who wins in South Carolina on Tuesday — and it's going to be John Edwards, by the way — the big loser is going to be the South Carolina Democratic party.

For nearly a year, I've been asking Democratic candidates why they are holding a "key, early primary," as they keep calling it, in a state where the local party is on life support, they haven't had a significant statewide Democratic primary in a decade, and they have no hope of beating President Bush in November.

What — Utah was already booked up that week?

Now the inexperience of the state party is about to hurt the Democrats big time, due to the insistence of the state party that every participant in the primary sign a "loyalty oath" to the Democratic party. No independent, nonpartisan, or Republican voter will be allowed to vote until after they affirm in writing that "I consider myself to be a Democrat."

The reaction from the electorate who, like me, knew nothing of this requirement, has been swift and negative: "Dumb," read the first line of the Columbia, S.C. State's coverage. Some voters who planned to vote have told reporters they will no longer show up, and at least one Republican activist is planning to challenge the Democrats by refusing to sign the pledge and demanding to vote, guaranteeing negative national press on the S.C. Democrats' day of glory.

And the Democrats should be embarrassed. The Republicans hold their primary in South Carolina every four years without this requirement. Worse, the South Carolina Democrats are notorious for accusations that the GOP is "trying to suppress black turnout" if a Republican poll watcher so much as asks to look at a single voter registration card.

Now the Democrats are asking black voters, many of whom remember the days of poll taxes and literacy tests, to sign a public pledge to the party in order to receive permission to exercise their franchise. If this were the GOP, the screams of Al Sharpton would be heard all the way in Crawford, Texas.

There's also a real question as to whether or not the loyalty oath is legal. South Carolina Code 7-11-20 covers primaries and what are called "advisory" elections — non-binding referenda. For years, the presidential primaries were essentially overlooked by state law and treated as advisory. But the law has since been modified and if the Democrat's primary really is a primary and not merely an advisory ballot, the loyalty-oath requirement violates South Carolina state law. It's also hard to see how it would survive a federal Voting Rights Act challenge in a state like South Carolina.

The loyalty oath will also have an impact on the election. John Edwards is clearly the favorite, and the higher the turnout among moderate and independent voters, the better he will do. But if they stay home and leave the field to the more hard-core Democratic activists, John Kerry's percentage of the vote will rise. And then there's the question of the loyalty oath's effect on black turnout. Black voters in South Carolina are lifelong Democrats and the party's most loyal voters, but they may not be comfortable putting that in writing.

But the real question is, "What the heck are the Democrats thinking?" Not only are they casting a shadow over the legitimacy of their own election, but they're also discouraging moderate, swing voters — the very voters they hoped to reach with this primary — from participating. Instead of energizing the party and adding new members, they're very publicly telling South Carolinians that the Democratic party is a "members only " organization. So why are they doing it?

One theory that's moving through South Carolina is that the interests of the party are divided. Local Democrats who have to run for reelection in November are desperate to see John Edwards at the top of the ticket. But party loyalists focused on beating Bush want South Carolina to go for Kerry, which would all but end the primary season on the spot.

That may explain why Rep. Clyburn made the surprise, last-minute decision to endorse Kerry, even after his key aide, Ike Williams, had joined the Edwards campaign. The conspiracy minded could also view the loyalty-oath decision as an attempt to keep Edwards's supporters at home, too. But those of us familiar with the workings of the state Democratic party are confident it's merely the latest example of their well-earned reputation for incompetence.


nationalreview.com



To: Lane3 who wrote (27508)2/2/2004 9:22:34 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793696
 
I just posted on WMD theory. Ledeen has his doubts about Kay's report also.



February 02, 2004, 8:33 a.m.
Potemkin WMDs?
Really?
Michael Ledeen - NRO

So now comes David Kay, a good man, a person I like a lot, with a lot to say. He set out to find large stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction and didn't. He says there's evidence that some stuff may have gone to Syria, but nothing like the quantities he expected to find. He has no doubt that Saddam had — or rather had ordered, and was told he had — a full-blown WMD program. But there's no sign of it, at least so far as David Kay and his CIA minions could find.

So what happened?

David now thinks that it was a Potemkin program. Count Potemkin was the lover of Tsarina Catherine the Great of Russia, and he was told to build new towns and cities for the grandeur of the regime. He couldn't manage it, but he couldn't tell his mistress the terrible truth. So he lied to her. And when she asked to see the new places, he created the eighteenth-century equivalent of movie sets. She sailed down the river, the movie sets were set up on the banks, and happy people waved at her. When the royal ship was out of sight, the villagers packed up the set, and raced downstream to the next site. From this, the expression "Potemkin village."

Thus, David tells us, Saddam's WMD program. He ordered his loyal servants to make him atomic bombs, chemical and biological weapons, and effective delivery systems. They couldn't manage it, but they couldn't tell Saddam because he would have killed them. So they faked it, producing a vast documentation for a program that did not really exist. The CIA (and the Brits, the French, the Germans, the Israelis, the Russians, etc. etc.) got some of this, and got some of the same false reports as Saddam received, and they went for it, just as Saddam did.

It's a great theory. It's imaginative and entertaining. I explains our failure to find what we expected to find, and it explains what we did find: considerable documentation about WMD programs. It also explains how Saddam could have ordered the deployment of WMDs, and nothing happened. Nothing could happen, because there was nothing there.

It's also devastating to the CIA and the other intelligence services, because one of its central conclusions is that the intelligence world didn't really have a clue about what was really going on — or rather, what wasn't going on. It suggests that the intelligence world never really challenged its own conclusions, even though there was no physical evidence to support them. If David Kay is right, then every datum in the analysis was fictional.

What a scandal! CIA's supposed to create such fictions, not be gulled by them.

As I say, it's a terrific theory. But I'm skeptical, and I've got a real reason for my skepticism, which David can easily confirm. Last August I called him in Baghdad to tell him that I had a person — a good person, like himself, a person I trust — who was prepared to take him to an underground laboratory from which a quantity of enriched uranium had been taken a few years ago, and smuggled to Iran. Wow, he said, let's go look. Have the guy call me, we'll check it out.

The guy could never get David on the phone because the CIA decided not to investigate after all. The CIA never went to look, and I don't know if that stuff was real or fictional. But this case was totally different from the Potemkin WMDs of David's elegant theory. Because my guy was in contact with the people who said they had moved the stuff from Iraq to Iran. They were now sick, and wanted to tell their story before they got much worse. But, as I say, the CIA never went to look. They pretended they wanted to, they finally met with my guy, but they told him they didn't believe his story (although there was really no reason to either believe it or not, it was a matter of either looking or not, and if you didn't look you couldn't know anything one way or the other). He said the people who had done the smuggling had a full description of the material on a CD Rom, which they were willing to provide. CIA wasn't interested. And that's the end of it, so far as I know.

So there's one instance where the CIA wasn't curious enough to take a ride and look at a lab. And I ask myself whether there were other such cases. I know of other examples, not involving WMDs, but involving Saddam's money, where CIA refused to look, and the stories they were told — and decided not to believe — turned out to be true.

And then I read the words of Peter Hain, the leader of the House of Commons in London. He says "I saw evidence that was categorical on Saddam possessing chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction." And we know, from the recent Hutton Report, that Tony Blair's claim that Saddam could be prepared to launch WMD attacks against Coalition forces "within 45 minutes," had come directly from MI6. Were the Brits fooled too? Hain insists they were not.

And then there's the story from the Syrian journalist in Paris who claims to have maps from high-ranking military intelligence officials in Damascus, identifying the sites where, he says, some of Saddam's stockpiles were moved. Have we checked that story?

I love the theory. But I have my doubts. Maybe time will tell.

nationalreview.com