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To: TobagoJack who wrote (45474)	2/2/2004 10:21:19 AM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

some people are just plain insulted by reality and some people try to adjust (financially speaking) got darwin?

To: TobagoJack who wrote (45474)	2/2/2004 10:54:07 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Jay, <<<I suspect it is perhaps not wise to fall back on structure of language as a competitive advantage, as language is perhaps indicative of thought process, and as such, what is a disadvantage one day can easily become an advantage the next, like chromosomes sequences>>> In perhaps what you may think of as a back handed compliment, I am implying that the Chinese are a remarkable people in being able to compete while straddled with such a primitive language structure. A clue to your new world order would be the number of people studying English as a second language versus Chinese. If you look at the Chinese language being keyed into a computer you would instantly recognize that as a KLUDGE. How many must read books are there that are written in Chinese and must be translated into other languages? On the other hand, while things that work and have a lot of value are sought after and copied worldwide - such as Chinese Porcelein, Silk, and Chinese cooking. <<<In any case, the Chinese speaking PhD students in the west do not seem to suffer unduly for their language ability issues (or should I perhaps say multiple language abilities?) vis a vis their Indian colleagues.>>> Those 50 students could succeed in any society speaking any language. <<<Additionally, the future holds many possibilities, mostly unexpected. You see, in an alternative version of the coming world order, post TeoTwawKi, suppose for a moment that the manufacturing of China is married to the software of India and both manages to tap into the resources of Russia and Australia and Indonesia, what will then be the center of the world? Oops, can this be the direction? Is this happening? We will have to wait and see.>>> That is going to be a long wait. But by the way, the Indians and the Australians already speak a form of English, and I do not detect any rush of Russians studying Chinese. Meanwhile, the Indonesians every so often purge their citizenry of people with Chinese ancestry. <<<... In a game, it is perhaps best that one understands and appreciates what one's competitor is doing every step of the way, and leaving the other players in ignorance about what oneself is doing unless one chooses otherwise.>>> What most people fail to understand, including most people in the US is the transparency of knowledge, and the willingness to share knowledge for its own sake, to continually search for truth - that is the fundamental strength of Western Civilization. If you have Nobel Prize caliber scientists in China and you try to keep them a secret from the rest of the world, you are also keeping them a secret from your own society. Out of a handful of scientist with Chinese ancestry studying in the United States, we have produced a remarkable number of Nobel Prize winners. Where are their counterparts in China? Are they keeping them a secret? <<<... The reason I do not locate myself in mainland China is that I cannot compete there with as much success.>>> You are much too modest. The reason I don't think you can compete in China is because they are not going to make it easy for you to compete. You would have to learn to be as articulate in Chinese as you are in English. I don't think you are in any rush to do that. You are a real smart guy <GGGGGG>. regards, Mary

To: TobagoJack who wrote (45474)	2/2/2004 1:46:06 PM
From: que seria	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Jay: More on bad birds. If this isn't just someone pushing an agenda, but is true, a delayed and suppressed recognition of it might once again shake your nearby stock as well as poultry market: timesonline.co.uk article: China covers up again on outbreak From Oliver August in Beijing China has staged a comprehensive cover-up of a bird flu epidemic similar to last year’s deception over Sars, despite assurances to the contrary by Beijing’s leaders. A large number of poultry markets in southern China have reported cases of the disease, and dozens of traders and butchers in contact with infected chickens have died, The Times has learnt. Government officials are said to be aware of the problem, but chose not to inform the World Health Organisation and instead threatened to dismiss Chinese journalists who report human deaths as a result of the flu epidemic. Last year President Hu Jintao headed off international criticism of China’s initial obfuscation over Sars by pledging greater transparency. Last week a government spokesman denied a New Scientist magazine report that the bird flu sweeping Asia in recent weeks originated in China and insisted that the country had no more than a small number of isolated outbreaks. According to local journalists in two affected provinces, officials are aware of being in the middle of a major outbreak. Poultry markets have been ravaged by the epidemic for several weeks and botched culls are said to have increased the risk of human infection. Last night China reported five more suspected cases of bird flu in poultry, including one in the remote northwestern region of Xinjiang, indicating that the disease has spread across the country. Lacking protective clothing and equipment, health workers may become part of the transmission route and abet the mutation of the virus into a more deadly form. Dick Thompson, a WHO spokesman, said there were concerns about “developing a strain that you would not want to see — many of these culling workers are not wearing the right personal protective equipment”. Chinese journalists who have closely followed the spread of diseases in animal markets since the eruption of Sars last year said they are being prevented from publishing stories detailing human bird flu deaths. “A document has been issued by the propaganda department that has stopped all coverage,” one said. “It is clear anyone who mentions the deaths of people from bird flu will lose their job.” Estimates of the number of human deaths in China range from single digits to several dozen, with many more being treated in hospitals, where they are not classified as suffering from bird flu. The confirmed death toll for other Asian countries is ten. Beijing has instructed media and government offices in southern provinces to repeat bulletins issued by Xinhua, the state news agency, which has downplayed the epidemic. Suspicions about China’s commitment to transparency were further highlighted yesterday when the WHO criticised Beijing for failing to report the latest Sars case, the fourth since last summer, until the patient had recovered. “WHO was not informed about this case until January 30,” the health body said. “Early detection, swift isolation and prompt reporting of cases are vital in the control of any infectious disease.” The first Sars case was recorded in southern Guangdong province in November 2002 but local authorities failed to inform the Health Ministry. When millions of Chinese travelled across the country for new year holidays the following February, the virus triggered an epidemic. By March, international observers suspected a major outbreak of the bug on the mainland after mass infections in Hong Kong and other Asian cities. In mid-April it was devastatingly clear that Chinese officials had vastly under-reported the number of Sars cases. In Beijing, instead of 37 patients, several hundred were languishing in the capital’s hospitals. When the WHO came to inspect, highly contagious patients were packed into ambulances and driven around the city until the inspectors left. Only when the international outcry over the epidemic threatened to affect China’s economy did Beijing finally take control. President Hu inspected Sars hospitals in Guangdong province and then ordered the dismissal of the Health Minister and the Mayor of Beijing. Experts still suspect that the real number of Sars deaths was higher than the 350 reported and that military hospitals were hiding cases from civilian authorities.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (45474)	2/2/2004 2:02:39 PM
From: RealMuLan	Respond to of 74559

Bravo! Jay, very smart answer! She sure sounds like one more arrogant (pity) person from the US of A<g> If Chinese language is so backward, then why the hack now the US "College Board begins offering advanced placement (AP) courses in Mandarin Chinese? usatoday.com And as a matter fact, some British computer scientist claimed the 21th century computer language should use Chinese instead<g> because of its ability to represent multiple meanings in one single word