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To: alan w who wrote (36492)	2/3/2004 2:52:46 AM
From: Jamey	Respond to of 39621

I agree that we should all strive to be like Christ. But I disagree with Brian that we can not trust experience. We each experience life based on our environment, psychological makeup and life experiences. I have heard many times from a religious point of view we are not to trust experience. That is true if we are in direct disagreement with the principles of religious faith. But how many of us agree on what the Word of God totally implies? There are more implications than to look at every situation in only black and white. There are many hues and shades in every circumstance in each individual's life. If I understand Christ's words, some things may be a sin to one person but not a sin to another depending on what the Holy Spirit convicts each individual as to what is sinful. For instance, drinking alcohol to me is sinful while it may not be sin in another's life. Above all things love, tolerance and moderation should be foremost in our minds about all things. James

To: alan w who wrote (36492)	2/3/2004 2:01:11 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Morning Alan I agree with what you are saying about our constant need for sanctifying grace but I must disagree with your dismissal of the law and it's place in the life of the believer today. What you are talking about is called Antinomianism; literally "against the law". There are several versions of this but basically this view say that it is not necessary for Christians to preach or obey the moral law of the OT. Theologians have long recognized that there are three aspects to the Law; Moral, Ceremonial and Civil. As Christians we are not expected to keep the ceremonial law because they were just a shadow of and a picture of what Messiah would come and do.(Col 2:16-17) Likewise we are not held to the civil laws given to the Theocratic nation of Israel. (Acts 15:) We are all fallen and therefore incapable of keeping the moral law of God perfectly; that is why Christ had to be God and Man. Certainly Christ fulfilled the whole law and then laid His life down as a perfect, substitutionary sacrifice for our sins. We are not saved by law keeping but by one the who kept the law for us. Luther said we are saved by faith alone but not by a faith that is alone". True faith always results in righteous living. Paul and James were not at odds over this point as even Luther thought, but are saying the same thing from different angles. (James 2:) Paul exhorts the Corinthians to; "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" What are we to examine ourselves with? We examine our behavior in light of the revealed moral commandments of God which are all reiterated in the New Testament. Again Paul says; "Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. (2Cor 7:1) The moral aspects of the Law are the unchanging reflection of the character of God himself and remain as the standard by which all behavior is to be measured. With respect to divorce, the 7TH chapter of 1Cor is the standard that we must adhere to if we want to be in line with the will of God. Divorce happens because of the hardness of our hearts but that does not absolve us from our responsibility to live our lives in line with the reveled will of God for us. Have to run for now. Greg