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To: hmaly who wrote (182070)	2/3/2004 4:29:53 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578501

Ted Re...And if true. Of course it is true. You just can't concede when you are wrong, can you? Look, you may well be right......Saddam gave money to bomber families in order to encourage others to suicide. But so what.......the bigger issue is why did it work assuming that it did work? When you figure that one out, you will be at the crux of the problem. what does that say about conditions in Palestine that guys who have their whole lives in front of them go for such a ploy? That is another discussion. This discussion was about Saddam and whether he supported terrorists. The fact that he would take advantage of down on their luck families, by helping to convince one of their members to commit suicide, to further Saddam cause, is another reason the brutal dictator should have been taken out. Its not another problem.....its the heart of the problem. The rest is your partisan BS. What makes you think the insurgents will allow it? As I said in my previous post,Al Qaeda isn't allowing it, if they can help it. And that is exactly what the US wants; that Al Qaeda has to attack heavily armed soldiers, with the ability to have and use air power, in their lands, fighting on our terms. Its a brilliant strategy, if it works. So far, Al Qaeda hasn't been able to effect another 9/11 for over 2 yrs, can't attack our soldiers without heavy loses, and now has resorted to attacking Iraqi civilians. The big question, is how long Al Qaeda will continue this losing gambit, before, of after they are irreconcievably damaged. A losing gambit? Just like the Taliban's tactics were a losing proposition against Russia; like the Viet Cong attacks were a losing gambit against the US? Its these "losing gambits" that tend to bring goliaths to their knees. What you say sounds good but you forget that al Qaeda is not this monolithic org. but rather a series of cells, none of which are a mirror reflection of the other.. So. That is all the more reason Al Qaeda is fighting out of their element in Iraq. Their small cells haven't been able to win one victory in either Afghanistan or Iraq. Excuse me, Russia left Afghanistan with its tail between its legs and the war in Iraq isn't over yet. And FYI, its not going well for the US! You talk like the Muslim hate for America is this pet peeve and that after a few deaths they will get over it. It would be nice if you're right. However, I doubt it. Why would you doubt it? It is human nature, to want peace and prosperity. Ahhhhhhhh........now you are starting to get it. There is no peace or prosperity in the ME. Let me put that into more graphic terms. Seventy per cent of the world doesn't have indoor plumbing....that means they have to run down to the local brook or communal well to get their water. They defecate in their backyards. Forty percent of the world's population lives in 80 semi arid and arid countries..........they hardly ever have enough water and many die from malnutrition and dehydration. Much of this poverty is centered in the Muslim world. Don't you think they know that, and that they want all of those things also, and the way to get it is to create a peaceful democracy. They don't know that.......when they think about it, they just want it. What make you think, they want us to live as poorly as they are. Its just the opposite, they want the things we have. There is no question but that they don't know any more about the American way than you know how to pray six times a day facing Mecca. We have no friends in the Middle East. Al Qaeda has a huge resource of population from which to draw. Yes, Billy boy let Al Qaeda get bigger than life, in the ME, by refusing to stand up to them. Things will change in time. I have always said we should go after al Qaeda. However, I was not stupid enough to suggest starting a war and then drawing them in. That al Qaeda is the real enemy. Al Qaeda is only one of our enemies. By taking out Saddam, I have shown how it just might kill two birds with one stone. That's a mighty big 'might' and we may well spend multiple billions and lose thousands of lives trying to figure out if it will work. For what? So Iraq has a chance at playing democratic. I don't think so! You and Bush can lie to yourselves but the world sees it for what it is.......a pre emptive war. Are you talking about the whole world, or the world in your little dream world, where everybody feeds on anger; and the real becomes surreal. Instead of using the net for your rants, you might use it as an info source.........and learn the facts. To bad. You should have seen it as the truth, as Cheney just verified last week, that it was the best version made public. Sorry, o wise one, no one's buying it. Could it be that Cheney has cried wolf too many times? Critics blast Cheney for linking al Qaeda to Iraq By M.E. Sprengelmeyer / Scripps Howard News Service WASHINGTON -- Critics are blasting Vice President Dick Cheney for his recent interview with the Rocky Mountain News of Denver, in which he said the “best source of information” about alleged connections between Iraq and al Qaeda was a magazine article that the Pentagon already had called “inaccurate” and based on “deplorable” intelligence leaks. <snip> “I think it’s obscene that the vice president of the United States would say that the ’best source of information’ on his claims is a document that his own administration has discredited and condemned,” said David Sirota of the Center for American Progress, a liberal policy group founded by John Podesta, former chief of staff to former President Bill Clinton. <snip> After the magazine article was published, the Department of Defense issued a press release saying “news reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.” Huh? Did you not read this article carefully?