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Politics : WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2004 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (9837)2/3/2004 5:53:46 PM
From: American Spirit  Respond to of 10965
 
Edwards should win SC and come close in OK. Since I see a Kerry-Edwards ticket in our future, I hope Edwards does fairly well. Remember though, the real winner is the one who wins the big industrial states rich with delegates. Edwards is strongest it seems with rural voters. I don't see him inspiring city folks that much. The means two things, he won't be the nominee, and he can help Kerry peel away a lot of those former Bushie rural voters.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (9837)2/3/2004 7:38:14 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10965
 
As expected, Edwards won SC. No surprise except that Clark, Sharpton and Dean did terrible. The real stories here tonight will be the following;

1) If Edwards wins Oklahoma and a strong second in Arizona and Missouri then Kerry has not won it yet.

2) If Clark fails to win anywhere he may be out. A shocker.

3) Dean's wipe out makes him irrelevant and a distant memory. His union backers may pressure him to drop out so they can work to beat Bush, not beat Kerry.

4) Kerry is either coronated or there is a Kerry-Edwards battle coming up which Kerry will win, and which will hopefully unite them as a ticket.

5) Lieberman, when does he drop out and who does he endorse?



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (9837)2/4/2004 12:03:38 PM
From: Ann Corrigan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10965
 
Lizzie,
An Edwards/Dean or Dean/Edwards ticket would be ideal but
my conclusion after watching last night's primary coverage is that it is those Wash insider lobbyists that have contributed to Kerry in past who are presently pushing him forward as nominee. They are all classic 'fast talkers' with well rehearsed answers & talking points. They have the most to lose if Edwards or another candidate grabs the nomination and also have most to gain with Kerry as potential next Pres since he will not be a threat to them & business will continue as usual in DC. Edwards has stated many times that one of his priorities would be to disarm 'special interests' strangle hold on congress.
It was obvious as well last night that Kerry/Heinz honed their relationships with prominent TV anchors--Chris Matthews being the most blatant example last night.
He had both Edwards & Kerry's campaign chairs during split-screen interview. Matthews pounded Edwards man by asking repeatedly if he considered trial lawyer bundled contributions as a "special interest", while Kerry's man smiled with assurance that Matthews was promoting Kerry's cause with the pounding. When it was Kerry's chair's turn for a question, Matthews made it very softball. Heinz/Kerry have worked on drawing prominent media plus wash lobbyists into their web & that's what started the momentum train that is difficult to slow down.
Edwards helped with his win in SC & almost win in OK.

It's extremely difficult for candidates who have not been compromised by powerful DC lobbyists to break the surface & get their message through to voters. The almost solid wall of 'special interests' in nation's capitol currently blocks the Wash-outsider presidential candidates as effectively as average citizens.

Dean currently has 2nd largest delegate block. We'll see in next few wks if he & Edwards can slowdown the WashDC juggernaut of insider DC lobbyists.