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To: TimF who wrote (124331)	2/3/2004 9:12:54 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Even if we can assume that the world government would be a democracy the new electorate (of which Americans would only be a small fraction) might easily decide for even bigger government. > Tim, that's likely, given the way people around the world vote. Look at India after half a century of freedom from the British Empire; they have maintained massive socialism for decades and are only now releasing the stranglehold slightly. The Eurosclerotic nations like lots of Big Government. It would be essential to limit the NUN to sovereignty over the commons [ocean, spectrum over the commons, air quality, border definition and protection and river quality and stuff like that]. The NUN wouldn't be stipulating toothbrush design standards or systems of weights and measures. If Americans want to use gallons [not even the good old Imperial type], and measure their daily exercize in miles, that would be up to them. Of course Big Government would want to define and control everything, the nature of megalomaniacs [politicians in general] being to be God. Hence the need for limited powers. Democratic processes seem to get the best answers for most people to feel happy enough to not join insurrection movements. How else would we appoint people to be Chief NUNist? Mqurice

To: TimF who wrote (124331)	2/3/2004 9:45:22 PM
From: Sig	Respond to of 281500

<<And can we even take a democracy as a given for this new world government??>>> I get discouraged even thinking about a world government, yet there will be one sometime in the future. So many Nations speaking different languages, having different traditions, and not even interested outside their own borders. So to begin it starts with ideals set forth by the existing powerful nations. And mighty few rules. Maybe the 9 commandments (to distinguish from the ten) 1. Thou shalt not preach a religion that teaches people to kill everyone of a different religion. (now I am already in big trouble) 2. World public dress code -anything but naked. ( and there goes the Aborigines, the Bushmen, Monte Carlo, the nudist colonies,and part of the South Pacific) 3. Human cloning prohibited. Who needs a basketball team with 7.5 foot average?. Or another Hitler. 4. A citizen will not be permitted to buy another country. Bill gates could buy 3 or more today. Saddam was buying them under the table with 1 mm blls and up of oil 5. ? Nope, this is not going to work, a consensus eludes me Our best hope at this moment is to get the UN all stirred up and working. I just dont feel that N Korea should have to be sanctioned and embargoed for 12 years until someone somewhere gets up enough courage to implement action if needed to keep nukes out of the hands of dangerous, threatening, flaky leaders. Sig