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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (16204)	2/4/2004 11:38:09 AM
From: Greg or e	Respond to of 28931

Interesting quotes. I have not read any of her books. I was under the impression that she was a Christian but after reading some of her statements I am now wondering if that was true. Spinoza's impersonal god is not compatible, or reconcilable with the personal, living, God of the bible. Obviously she was an amazing individual but she only was able to break out of her isolation because the one who broke through to her was personal and intentional. That is the way the bible describes the spiritual condition of every person; blind and deaf, unable to break out of our sin, in fact it describes us a spiritually dead. Helen Keller's physical condition is analogous to our spiritual condition apart from the grace of God. "And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." (Eph 2:1-)

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (16204)	2/4/2004 1:52:11 PM
From: Greg or e	Respond to of 28931

The Passion of Christ; A new book by John Piper. The first five chapters have been posted online. If you are interested, here is the link. passion-book.com "The most important questions anyone can ask are: Why was Jesus Christ crucified? Why did he suffer so much? What has this to do with me? Finally, who sent him to his death? The answer to the last question is that God did. Jesus was God's Son. The suffering was unsurpassed, but the whole message of the Bible leads to this answer. Why did Christ suffer and die? The central issue of Jesus' death is not the cause, but the meaning-God's meaning. That is what this book is about. John Piper has gathered from the New Testament fifty reasons. Not fifty causes, but fifty purposes-in answer to the most important question that each of us must face: What did God achieve for sinners like us in sending his Son to die?"