From: antibash, Dec 1 1998 12:06AM ET
Spider, I am in this as thick or more than you! I reveal my knowledge to point because I
trust you. I ask today "who is Spider" my people don't know or wish not to tell me, you
make the call! I hold a very large posistion here, I am tired of convincing you of this. If
you don't like my tactics I am sorry! You are right about Janice to spill more beans,
provoke her if you would. Don't harp me for it !
anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 1 1998 12:10AM ET
no...listen, you HAVE MY TRUST!!! i hear there is group deciding to buy 780K this
week, good q tommorow, it may sustain us....i really do not care if it dips before court
date i am accumulating. i trust you & we are team. i only ask these questions for i give
testimony about janice at trial. i wish to know that forthright show her my pm's that is all.
i trust you!
spider
From antibash,Dec 1 1998 12:11AM
Well I hate the french--period! We will win this, as you say, NIB NIB NIB! Please trust me my friend,
as this is very trying on ones mind. $100,000 is not a joke! Good luck anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 1 1998 12:14AM
i know....how can dtc defend holding 4.48 million shares hostage at shareholders expense. they can not. we will win this war. i am certain! i accumulate still ! spider
From: antibash, Dec 1 1998 12:17AM ET
I know about 700,000 + buy in from certain group, depending on Migraine. You and I get
the same info from same source. From now on we will be a team not doubting each other,
OK? This is very frustrating to all shareholders and I will relax them as I can.
anti
From antibash,Dec 1 1998 12:18AM
DITTO! anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 1 1998 10:17AM
ok, but i feel it is best not to post on aznt thread. we must let this group bury themselfs. lets hope good q & this buying groups help support price over $1. if not i will keep to accumulate this stock. spider
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 2 1998 12:15AM ET
Q is filed. it should be on edgar soon. judge still not give date. statutes prevent it from
dragging on. rico is telling groups of shareholders stock will be halted. this is total
nonsense. i have no idea why he does this. i believe it does not happen fast enough for him
& in his group. he even says to shareholders stock will be halted because of my posts. this
is more nonsense. it is janice shell who is in bed with bruce judd. it is tonto & mitchell who
must fear wrath of sec in this las vegas sun debacle. if anything i provide 500 pages to sec
& fbi to assist in finding truth & i am to give testimony at hearing. rico acts like child.
i hope you & others have done diligence enough to know what i post was truth!
spider
From antibash,Dec 2 1998 10:43AM
Spider, this is the first time I have heard this about Rico. I have done my diligence and agree with your post's. Does Rico still own stock or has he sold? anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 2 1998 11:11AM
he hasn't sold yet, but he scares investors by telling them there may be halt which is NOT TRUE, we talk to him. i put limit orders in for $.50. this may be great chance to accumulate even more before hearing. spider
From antibash,Dec 2 1998 11:22AM
I have left him a PM, I will not let him know you told me anything. I will try to put him at ease. I will let you know if he PM's me back. anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 2 1998 11:40AM ET
you won't put him at ease. he has personal thing with me & i wish he would get over this.
he is like child who want INSTANT GRATIFICATION, imo, do not pacify him. here is
my pm to him in response to his telling me he will inform you he is selling and this is hype
job;
if anything, with lack of knowledge in this market of what really happens here as your
knowledge demonstrates some will be nervous & suspicious like you. it is ok. i suggest you sell so you are comfortable. antibash is well informed so he will make his decision
accordingly. but to scare investors with unfounded claims is wrong. you may tell
shareholders it is going to be halted. you may tell them it is because of me but you would
be do me & them an injustice. you forget i supplied fbi & sec with 700 pages of material. i
have talked to the fbi agents . i post only info that is public & obtainable with diligence.
your lack of knowledge & impatience is doing this investment harm. your constant
comparisons to GM & RMIL are self serving. one time experience, second time a mistake.
i choose to believe the fbi & sec & i trust my judgement after my discussions with them.
the fbi & sec does not hype. you twist this into mike sylver & analogy to GM & RMIL,
you do this at your own detriment. if you have not learned from that experience it is too
bad. but to claim others have not learned is arrogant of you. to make these arrogant & self
serving claims to other shareholders who may be vulnerable already is inexcuseable imo. if
you are uncomfortable sell. but do not pretend to know as much as i or antibash know, you
do not.
spider
From: antibash, Dec 2 1998 12:36PM ET
This is what he says:
We (267k STRONG) are bailing out.
The sells you saw the last couple of days OURS.
We will come back next year when they are about to
squeeze them...right now...ITS ALL BS and its the
same old SHIT from SYLVER.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
Oh well, what can you do? He will only hurt himself and his friends.
anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 2 1998 1:18PM ET
let him sell, he only is pumping & dumping. he cares not for other shareholders only
himself. his diligence is weak. if buyer comes in for 780k he will be sorry he dump. i no
longer trust him. he bad mouths our investment. hearing may be next week, it may be jan
4, who knows. he is stupid imo to sell at this price & ashhole for scaring other investors.
my broker call mm herzog. he was in good mood until my broker ask him about aznt! mm
tell my broker to call compliance dept.. he did this but was told no one could speak to him.
lololol . rico makes big mistake.
spider
From: antibash, Dec 2 1998 5:45PM ET
Rico says they are just taking a breather and will be back with more $$$ to buy AZNT. He
says they don't want their $$$ tied up right now for a month with no guarantee's. I told
him I thought he was making a mistake. The volume today does not indicate a sell off. I ask him not to bad mouth AZNT, he said he would not on boards. He says don't count him out, they will be back. Nobody will care if he comes back when the squeeze starts, he can only hurt us now if they sell all of their shares at once and drive the price down. I don't think he is that stupid.LOLOLO All we can do is watch and find out! anti
From antibash,Dec 2 1998 5:47PM
Hey, where the hell is the 10Q? Their making me look stupid again!LOLOL anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 2 1998 11:39PM ET
i am very upset with him. all his talk hurts this stock & scares shareholders. i am very
confident. he will be lucky to get in this stock for what selling price is right now. i do not
see evidence of big sell off. i do not understand rico. we will win this battle i am sure.
spider
From Spider Valdez,Dec 2 1998 11:40PM
it was filed. sylver mailed me hard copy after filing. he say it takes few day before it is on edgar. hopefully tommorow. spider
From: antibash, Dec 3 1998 12:08AM ET
He tells me he does not believe in this possible big buy in my investment groups. I can't say I blame him, it is hard to believe in something you can't see. He is a big baby though. Let him do his thing, we are believers of our diligence. Keep me posted,
anti
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 12:10AM
Thank you for that update, I look forward to it's appearance. anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 3 1998 12:13AM
if there are buyers during this time good, if not i can continue to accumulate. he is on my shit list. spider
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 10:26AM
Whiners don't win my vote either! anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 3 1998 10:30AM ET
look at tonto's post;
Talk : Short-Term : CAVALRY'S SHORT BUSTERS - MAGIC EIGHTBALLS PICKS
| Previous | Next | Respond |
To: Janice Shell (1581 )
From: tonto Thursday, Dec 3 1998 8:39AM ET
Reply # of 1585
Janice, did you receive e-mail regarding a specific investigation of
touting? The posts are incriminating and the regional head has decided
this area requires aggressive prosecution.
The SEC is doing an excellent job. There is just too much...
they never stop with this nonsense. janice shell will stalk me now because we do not post on aznt thread. i hate this group.
spider
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 10:45AM
We will have the last laugh Spider. When we do, I will be all over her where ever she posts. I think CAV said it best "the biggest pump & dump in SI history is her reputation". I personally think Rico won't sell, all smoke. anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 3 1998 10:48AM
well said by cavalry!! yes i read that & remember it! as for rico i agree with you but question why he acts like this. it really bothers me very much. but i believe the q was good, revenues & small profit! next q will be even better! we will win! spider
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 11:09AM
It looks like the MM's are going to take us up this morning. This will freak out Rico along with the 10q. I think Rico will come to his senses soon. It should be a good today. anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 3 1998 11:13AM
like i say, this q will give shareholders confidence! spider
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 11:57AM
The bash bitch will chew on the 10Q for the next couple of days. That is one mean old bitch I tell you.
anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 3 1998 12:00PM
yes she is. she hate it we do not play with her. it make her crazy! lololol! she taunt us to get us to post! best weapon against janice shill is to ignore her. spider
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 12:08PM
You got that right. Where is all that selling from Rico's group? LOLOL I think Zonkie has retired himself from AZNT thread. Janice will burn out in a couple of days and find a new penny stock to victimize. anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 3 1998 12:14PM
i hope she leaves too. it appears they need attention to keep them busy. without attention she may leave. who will pay her if no one is there for her to fight? rico i do not understand. spider
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 4:42PM
Are you talking to Rico at all? Where is the volume? anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 3 1998 5:04PM ET
i do not talk to hom. his behavoir have no excuse. to tell shareholders there will be halt etc,
is very wrong. i hear today that judge is wrapped up with murder/racketerring case. if he
doesn't make court soon lawyers will move to have case continued in other courtroom with
other judge. i heard defendants are in hurry for case to because injunction does not permit
them to short this stock. we will hear something soon!
spider
From antibash,Dec 3 1998 7:11PM
The faster the better I say. Did he tell his Group there will be a halt? Who are the shareholders he told this to? anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 3 1998 9:22PM
yes & he tell them also it is because of my posts which i do not understand. i have talked to the groups he try to scare. they hold as you can see. spider
From: antibash, Dec 4 1998 12:40AM ET
I talk to him daily. I figure he is to afraid to sell right now! The stock is holding its own.
He says he does not want to sit around right now and wait. I tell him, don't get caught with
your shorts down, you could really lose then. He tells me " nothing will happen for at least
a month.... even Sylver knows that". So he might as well play on another table while
AZNT is on a break! I say what ever, but I will not give up on him so easily! By the way,
he never brings up your name and does not talk shit about anyone but the company!
anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 4 1998 12:13PM
how does rico know this when judge is busy with racketeer / murder case & has not made known date of hearing. he is not to be trusted imo. spider
From antibash,Dec 4 1998 12:38PM
Like you say, he is not good at diligence. I think he is bluffing. I can't imagine he would sell at these prices. Where does he get his information from anyway? anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 4 1998 12:43PM ET
he gets good information but he for some reason rejects it for his own which is very bad.
he says he knows better. i do not understand how he can say that. he knows i will give
testimony & that i speak to lawyers, fbi & sec. he still tells everyone stock will be halted &
because of me. when trying to assure one group of shareholders this is not case i
conference call with mike sylver. sylver tell this guy from this group rico is wrong that i
give sec & fbi much information & that i am one reason stock was NOT halted. rico must
know this but chooses to carry on in the ill way. what can we do?
spider
From antibash,Dec 4 1998 6:10PM
Now Rico tells me not to count him out. He says he has not even sold half yet. I can't figure him out. What is suppose to happen on the 17th? anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 4 1998 7:06PM ET
ok, only thing i can think of for 17th is maybe japanese interest that may be buyer of aznt
products. also co. will be buying air time on art bell radio show. do not mention this on SI
threads ok? let me know what 17th is if i am wrong. also i learn not to trust rico. i do trust
you though. i do not care if someone sells. i do care if they scare other shareholders stalk
will be halted when it will not. talk later!
spider
From antibash,Dec 7 1998 10:52AM
Spider, I am not sure what the 17th means. I heard through the grapevine watch on the 17th. I will try to find out. Maybe the Japanese or the Radio show was it, I don't know. Anything new on your end? anti
From Spider Valdez,Dec 7 1998 11:01AM
yes maybe art bell ads. i do not know either. we wait for hearing. what else can we do? i see a 900 share sell today. if price drops much more i will be buying more. good luck! spider
From antibash,Dec 7 1998 5:25PM
Fuck Rico, he is playing the crying game. He says he is selling all their shares. Wheres all the big players, wheres the trial, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, fuck him anti
From: Spider Valdez, Dec 7 1998 11:53PM ET
right, fuck him, i hear today the stock will fly after the 17th. something big is to happen.
let rico sell we can buy more cheaper then. i bought at the close today but the made my
trade after hours. it will open @ $.875 tommorow. let him sell & be gone with him. he is
big baby!
spider
From: antibash, Dec 8 1998 2:33AM ET
I am sending 2 people to Sylver tomorrow. I have people who loan money to people with
this type of business. One, already owns stock in AZNT. Rico accused me of George
polanis being my source. This piece of shit was the throne of Andy Mann. This pisses me
off and I told Rico to get the fuck out. I will not be talked to with disrespect. I now have a
reason to mess with Rico's investment. I am fist fighting with this Rico pussy on line TOO
MUCH! It is time to bring in my hold card! I will tell you more tomorrow.
anti |
