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To: The Philosopher who wrote (6596)	2/5/2004 11:45:02 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

War itself is atrocious Agreed. That, incidentally, is why some of us (most of the world, really) was urging the exploration of other paths, and pointing out the feebleness of the "evidence" during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. The attack on Pearl Harbor was atrocious. The Japanese invasion of China and its treatment of Chinese women was atrocious. The buzz bombing of London was atrocious. The firebombing of Dresden was atrocious. That is what happens when human lust for power overcomes human decency. Agreed, again. Precisely why "crimes of war" and "crimes against humanity" were defined and prosecuted after WWII. Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "crimes against humanity" according to these definitions, as I posted before. Since I have relatives who would likely have died if the invasion of the Japanese mainland had been the only way to end the war, I am grateful that Truman had the courage to take what he knew was a terrible step on order to save many, many American and Japanese lives. POSSIBLY saving the lives of Japanese soldiers by taking away the lives of their kids, wives, and daughters back home, you mean? I have a funny feeling that says if they were asked the question, the soldiers would prefer to die fighting themselves, rather than their kids & wives burning to ashes by bombs dropped over their homes. And, I hate to point this out to you, but while I am sure your "relatives" are/were great people by whose presence the world is richer, their survival does not justify the incineration of two cities and pretty much all their inhabitants. Unless, of course, one is to assign different values to the lives of American and Japanese women and kids...

To: The Philosopher who wrote (6596)	2/5/2004 3:08:11 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 20773

"Since I have relatives who would likely have died if the invasion of the Japanese mainland had been the only way to end the war, I am grateful that Truman had the courage..." That is nonsense. The Japanese were surrounded and were basically out of gas, food, and other supplies. They bombed Japan to test the bombs, to give a message to expansionist Russia, and to permit an actual occupation for political reasons. No invasion was necessary to end the war. The war had long been over in any practical sense.