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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: alan w who wrote (2546)	2/4/2004 10:13:48 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

How could our God create a creature ( Satan ) and predestine him for eternal torment?

To: alan w who wrote (2546)	2/4/2004 11:50:41 PM
From: gregor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

since we have already discussed the verses in John and First John lets move on to the new verse you bring up Isaiah 54: 16 - 17 If you look at verse 15 and the words "but not by me", I feel that what God is saying is that in times past he brought warring nations against Israel but not this time or the time leading up to the 1000 year reign. This prophetic chapter is referring to the thousand year reign when the city of Jerusalem will be rebuilt into a city 10 1/2 miles square and is a minature replica of the New Jerusalem in heaven that is 1500 miles square and cubed. This is my personal opinion however I do not feel we will inhabit a heavenly city that is three dimensional and has buildings 1500 miles tall. I merely feel that the atmosphere or the heavens above the city will reach 1500 miles high. That is some atmosphere. And that must be some planet. However I feel that in verse 16 the "smith" is referring to foundrys on earth that make weapons and the "waster" is not a literal reference to satan but to those that war and do war on the earth. I will agree that the first two references are of satan however not the third. Clearly God is saying that he has in times past brought armies against Israel however not in the times leading up to the 1000 year reign. When God said he was making an everlasting covenant with the nation of Israel he could not have been speaking of the Mosaic law. It had to have been the Christian covenant or the new testament that was to be everlasting. In it all sacrifice of animals were suspended as Christ was the everlasting sacrifice. Thanks for the opportunity to post...gregor