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To: tejek who wrote (2618)	2/4/2004 7:00:12 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7936

The problem is that you see the Palestinians and the US military doing two different things. Yes. As police, who occasionally kill innocent people but not on purpose, and rapist/murderers, who also kill innocent people but on purpose, are doing two different things. What you don't see is that your bias is muddying up the picture. Pot calling the streaked pane of glass black. Both the Palestinians and the US military think they are doing what needs to be done to protect their interests. Just as the policeman who fires at a gunman who is spraying AK-47 fire into a crowd but misses and kills an innocent child, and the rapist/murderer who kills his victim to avoid her being able to identify him, also are doing what they think needs to be done to protect their interrests. The result of their efforts is that innocent people are dying. Same in my example. So, you think a police officer who is shooting to protect innocent victims but inadvertently kills an innocent person, and a rapist/murderer who deliberately slaughters his victim, are equivalent. Sad.

To: tejek who wrote (2618)	2/5/2004 12:28:15 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7936

What you don't see is that your bias is muddying up the picture. Both the Palestinians and the US military think they are doing what needs to be done to protect their interests. The net aim (defeating Israel or defeating Saddam) wasn't part of the calculations. The target of the attacks (civilians or the regime of a brutal military dictator) is the distinction. In one case you have deliberate targeting of civilians in the other you have care taken not to hit civilians. I am just as subject to bias as other people but this point isn't biased or muddy. The principle is clear and I am applying it in an even handed way. You might not agree with the principle but that doesn't make the point muddy or biased. Tim