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To: LindyBill who wrote (27929)	2/4/2004 9:38:31 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 793919

One can believe the US made a mistake in backing israel without going into excess revisionism. And the israelis you met in the construction business are neither representative of american jews nor israeli jews for that matter. Most israelis are decent folks, much like americans. The problem is that they are surrounded by people who have been conditioned by their leaders to hate them and in their fight on terror which is an every day occurrence, they are sometimes clumsy in how they deal with it. If the US were surrounded by such a country that country would long ago have ceased to exist. Israelis are a small player with big guns in a harsh neighborhood. Guys like steven not only find american policy toward israel to be wrong they also find zionism to be wrong. Jews had no business going from the ovens back to the last homeland they knew. And prior to the vast migration, the arabs were already supporting nazi policy. None of this was pre-ordained to turn out this way. Mike@venting.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (27929)	2/4/2004 9:43:16 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793919

I think Steven is the epitome of the non-anti-semitic left who thinks we made a major mistake backing Israel It's not just about our backing Israel. It's not just about the Brits backing Zionism, which heaven knows they did briefly enough. I do catch a kind of 'cosmic whiff' in his description of Jewish guilt there, that doesn't pertain to Brit creation of Jordan, or Egypt, or any of the states of the Modern middle east, or any of its colonies. This isolation of Israel for special treatment as specially illegitimate is functionally anti-Semitic, whatever its philosophical roots. I've actually never heard Steven comment on Israelis, who certainly can be pushy and aggressive.