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To: Robert O who wrote (176840)	2/4/2004 11:35:13 PM
From: BWAC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

And weren't you bored to death the whole time? To the point of losing interest in whatever the subject was? The "A" was coming whether you furiously scribled notes or took a power nap. I had an interesting thought in a class for Residential Contractors at the local community college. The instructor was going over methods to assure a square corner. Bingo Geometry. 345 rule. Pythagorean Theorem (sp?). Wham. 95% of the people in the class were now lost. Math? Huh? Applying math to a "real" existing problem. Can't do. And I thought, wouldn't it have been nice if the schools were teaching how to actually apply and use all the gobbledegook they were putting on the blackboard. Or worse projecting onto the wall.

To: Robert O who wrote (176840)	2/5/2004 4:18:57 PM
From: greg s	Respond to of 186894

re: Ps Can anyone reccomend a good book on the general school praising/bashing debate? Absolutely. This was written in 1969, but still holds true today. Thanks for asking the question. I loaned my copy to a high school teacher back in the '70s and they never returned it. I plan to order a replacement copy. Academia in Anarchy: An Economic Diagnosis by James M. Buchanan, Nicos E. Devletoglou amazon.com Part of a book review (go to the link for the full review): The modern university is a house of straw, held together precariously, if at all, only by the inertia of ancient traditions observed still by faculty and administration but increasingly and overwhelmingly rejected by students. In this book the university appears as an economic freak literally asking for and deserving its current fundamental turmoil. hku.hk