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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (124391)2/5/2004 10:28:04 AM
From: John Soileau  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<<He has also said the Ottoman Turks' killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians in 1915 wasn't genocide but the brutal byproduct of war.>> My wife's Armenian grandmother saw her family taken by the Turks from their home in the night and killed. The same happened to all the other Armenians in her village--taken and killed by the Turks in the night _because they were Armenians_. The popular cry at the time as "Turkey for the Turks". None of the Turkish neighbors were taken and killed. No, these brutal, intentional murders were not "wartime casualties"; it was genocide on an enormous scale, and as a historian he should know that. It is as vicious and savage to deny the holocaust in Turkey as it is to deny the holocaust in Germany; both undeniably happened, and neither were just a "brutal byproduct of war". I have it first-hand, from an eyewitness.
Lewis' other interesting attribute is his close friendship with Mr. Chalabi (you're a good researcher; look into that guy a bit).
Nadine, putting aside my general aversion to the writings of holocaust deniers, I do agree with Lewis on a post-9/11 aggressive policy in the Middle East, but totally disagree that Iraq is in any way a rational locus for that aggression. The Iraq war is an unfortunate diversion, an avoidable policy failure, and is wholly counterproductive to waging the real war on terrorism.
John



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (124391)2/5/2004 10:58:18 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
I caught Tenet's speech this morning on C-SPAN. He made an excellent defense of intelligence, and of the Administration. Clearly, there was either an elaborate disinformation campaign on the part of the Iraqis, or the weapons existed, and probably continue to exist......