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To: Dayuhan who wrote (28137)2/6/2004 1:10:46 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793658
 
You have yet to produce any evidence that a meaningful double standard is being applied to Israel, especially within the United States, the only place where it really matters these days

You just moved the goalposts. We were talking about the entire West's reaction, meaning mostly Europe, then it comes to Israel and suddenly we're only talking about the US, where the double standard against Israel is much less. No, the US, people do seem to notice that the Palestinians express their "resistance" by blowing up school buses and pizzerias, and this does make people generally lose sympathy for them. Not so in Europe. Of course the media has quite a lot do with it. In the American papers, the Pals send the suicide bombers; in the European ones, only Israelis shoot; the Pal violence happens of itself like a force of nature.

Actually it would not be, if the building housed civilians as well. We hold ourselves – and almost everybody else - to a higher standard of behaviour than that

"almost everybody else". The crux of the matter. Does this "almost everybody else" include the Arabs or does it not? Among the European elites it definitely does not. We must allow the Arabs to have their own way of doing things, which we must not judge though it is bloodthirsty and frankly rather barbarous, they must like it that way.

Because I see one helluva lot more outrage in Europe when Israel kills a civilian as collateral damage (btw, promising never to go after these thugs when we might kill civilians makes human shields a 100% successful defense for them) than when Hamas blows up a totally civilian bus on purpose. Nobody holds Hamas to any standard.

Maybe because the US doesn't have as much guilt over the founding of Israel as Europe does. We didn't make it necessary as they did, and if we began feeling guilty over how the Zionists behaved, then we'd have to go shoot ourselves over how the settlers of the US behaved!

serious questioning of the special and monumental privileges Israel enjoys in Washington.

It's always Israel the Special, isn't it? Frankly, speaking as an American I can see what we get from Israel, both in good and in trouble. But I see no return at all for the $2billion a year we pay to Egypt. And our 'alliance' with Saudi Arabia is like hugging an adder.