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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (16852)	2/6/2004 3:32:44 PM
From: Tradelite	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

I don't know what those engineers should be retraining for, but they ought to be smart enough to come up with some kind of plan. During the tech boom, government had a real problem attracting new employees---no one wanted to work for the stodgy old government when they could make bigger bucks and get stock options in "glamor jobs" in the private sector. They shoulda considered a government job. Government has always been in need of qualified technical people. The CIA, the Departments of Army/Navy/Air Force need very specific technical and engineering skills. The biggest impediment to being hired for those agencies, however, is getting a security clearance--it can take a year to complete one of those. One of my oldest friends retired a number of years ago from the Navy Department as an electronics engineer. He helped design the missile systems that were used for the first time during the Gulf War, as well as working on many other key projects. When he retired, he moved to Silicon Valley and joined the aerospace unit of a major auto manufacturer who name I won't mention. He made big bucks there and retired again, this time with 30,000 shares of company stock in his retirement plan. When the stock tanked and his "rich" retirement went down the drain, he went back to work again here on the East Coast with a major aerospace defense contractor. If this engineer can reinvent himself three times during his adult life, why can't a Stanford-educated engineer do the same? By the way, this fellow's greatest fear was that he wouldn't be hired by the aerospace firm here, because of his age. And you think the old folks have it easy?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (16852)	2/6/2004 3:38:18 PM
From: Wyätt Gwyön	Respond to of 306849

What do you think a stanford educated MS in engineering, who used to be the architectural lead for microsoft project for example, should be trained for? why, a Real Estate Agent! VBG

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (16852)	2/6/2004 8:23:50 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

<<What do you think a stanford educated MS in engineering, who used to be the architectural lead for microsoft project for example, should be trained for?>> He/she should retrain as a mortgage broker, and get a job at LendingTree.com, pronto!<G>

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (16852)	2/9/2004 8:52:35 AM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 306849

Lizzie, RE: "What do you think a stanford educated MS in engineering, who used to be the architectural lead for microsoft project for example, should be trained for?" Is this an example you just made up, or did you get it from somewhere? Most people in this position at Microsoft retired by the time they were 30 to 40 years old. Some continue to work out of the desire to work. Are you talking about an IT person who doesn't work at Microsoft, or are you talking about a Microsoft employee that's the lead developer for MS-Project? It isn't anyone I've heard about. But then again, never got to know many people from the Project team since that technology was more database oriented. RE: "should be trained for" For one of Microsoft's new emerging technologies. Regards, Amy J