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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1134)2/6/2004 8:06:00 PM
From: CalculatedRiskRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 81568
 
My favorite Democratic candidate is also Howard Dean.

As a life long Republican, I would prefer if the GOP would run an electable candidate like McCain; someone that didn't have to run on Bush's record of mendacity or have his Procrustean approach to issues. But we will not have that choice.

Howard Dean has a strong record of fiscal responsibility (until he blew the $40 Million on his campaign). But apparently we will not have him on the ballot either.

So my choice will have to be Kerry. Kerry is an interesting candidate, since he takes a very reasoned and nuanced approach to issues. This has made him go against his party several times (Like voting for Gramm-Rudman). It will be a breath of fresh air to have someone that THINKS about issues!

Like a growing number of Americans, there is no way I would vote for Bush.

Best to all.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1134)2/6/2004 10:16:26 PM
From: ChinuSFORead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Ray a good post. But let us stop to see Bush vis-a-vis Dean. The Bushies are to the extreme right. They have railroaded their fellow Republicans who are moderate and more to the middle and hence closer to the Independents.

Now you take Dean. He is more to the left than Kerry. So let us consider him to the left. Dean and his folks also railroaded or attempted to railroad their way through the nomination process. started to solicit endorsements from the "so called" leaders or "self appointed" influencers such as Al Gore. When Dean got attacked he went running to Terry McAulife. He wanted the "protection" similar to which Bush had from his party (thanks papa Bush) when he ran against McCain in 2000.

But again this is the Democratic party. Dean's actions, did not carry well with the rank and file Democrats. They viewed his actions similar to that of Bushies but from the other side of the political spectrum. And Hence they moved or gravitated towards a candidate who is more towards the center and could attract similar votes from the disenchanted Republicans.

Just my analysis and I hope people like Jake do not come on and insist that I provide proof.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1134)2/6/2004 10:26:30 PM
From: portageRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Raymond, you know that I know that a lot of this is true, and you know who I blame.

But I'm also realistic and practical.

No matter how much I believe something, doesn't mean the mass of voters do.

Their tendency towards long range planning and strategic thinking is well known to be missing.

The time is not here yet for a revolution - in this country, that only happens after a big crisis that hits people personally, not while one is starting to develop. Don't like it, but that's how it is, imo.

I do not look to politicians for shining examples of honesty or as role models. A republic is about compromise, not dogma.

I liked some of Dean's ideas, but never really warmed to him. If I didn't, do you really think the Kansas swing voters would ?

Liked some of Nader's ideals too, but his ego put bush in office. ugh.

I'll take the "patrician" who speaks for the little guy, whether he's one of them or not, if he's good enough to get elected and stop the current crop of republicrims from taking over the judicial branch too for the next 30 years.

It's been about electability for me since 2000, and who that is has moved with events. It's Kerry, and it never was Dean, before or after Iowa. That's the way I see it.

My ideals don't mean sh*t if the glass comes up empty and there's still a george and a dick in office next January.

The tide's turned, and in spite of the coming dirty tricks, america's beginning to see that a one party right wingnut rule of the whole government is a VERY bad thing, even if they don't understand all the implications. But they're not moving wholesale away, only in a comfort zone.

Hey, nothing's ever permanent. Or, just call me an optimist :}