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To: CusterInvestor who wrote (18028)	2/7/2004 3:57:43 PM
From: John F. Poteraske	Respond to of 48461

Excellent Post-Thanks! I found the discussion regarding tax receipts for self employed compared to those that classify themselves as self employed to be very enlightening. Also: Two-thirds of the jobs growth was in retail sales.

To: CusterInvestor who wrote (18028)	2/9/2004 11:22:53 AM
From: tsigprofit	Respond to of 48461

Jobs - I can tell you what I see in Michigan in the auto industry - for engineering and computer workers. There were dozens of new hires in our larger dept. in 2002. There have been waves of layoffs in the white-collar sector here in both Summer 2003, and again 2 weeks ago January 2004. There have been ZERO new engineers or programmers added since 2002 here. Also - I know people personally with experience that were let go last Summer 2003 - still looking for employment. These are good, highly skilled people making 50-70K on salary. There are NO jobs for these people here, period. They have dropped off the unemployment rolls, so are not even counted as unemployed in the statistics.